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TychoMonolyth · 01-20-2018, 01:36 PM

Prices for Water Crystals, like any weed related products, are meant to rape you every time you bend over. The prices are blatantly obscene. Fuckers. For the most part, they're ripping you off for an idea they stole, repackaged it, and slapped a weed sticker on it. You can find most weed related tools, or very good substitutes all around you if you look.

In this case, Water Crystals can be found in DIAPERS and many other products. Pull a diaper apart and go for the cotton interior. Don't sift out the crystals from the cotton because it'll help hold water too. If you put too much in the ground (I suggest no more than a tablespoon), it'll lift and push your plant right out of the ground when it rains if you put too much.

Crystals are a safe and inert chemical called Sodium Polyacrylate and can absorb 2-300 their weight in water, and your plants can access this reservoir when it needs it.

You can get Sodium Polyacrylate in bulk here and it's cheap! https://snowinseconds.com/. You can get a small pouch for $15. Just over-water it and it'll turn to gel for you and double or tripple the claimed 2 gallons.

They have bigger sizes, enough to fill a swimming pool, but get about 5 of the smaller sizes for future years. They store better and don't absorb water from the air because they're sealed.

How big do the water crystals get? (Sodium Polyacrylate)

But I like the diapers with the cotton. If it's good enough for a baby's bottom, it's good enough for my dope.

Alternatively, if you can peel the plastic outer shell off the diaper, you can stuff a whole small diaper in the hole, cover with a bit of soil, and stick your plant on top.

pothead66 · 01-20-2018, 03:08 PM

how about soaking the diaper xtals in water to expand, then planting in the hole?

TychoMonolyth · 01-20-2018, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pothead66

how about soaking the diaper xtals in water to expand, then planting in the hole?

xtals? U mean nutes?

I'd rather carry a pack of xsmall diapers. They're light, and compact. I'd water them once in the holes (with light nutes) , then cover with dirt, then the plants.

RedDirtWarrior · 01-26-2018, 08:17 AM

It's industrial byproduct, its plastic, it's not natural. I wouldn't smoke weed grown with it.

I certainly wouldn't put it in the ground in nature somewere either.

TychoMonolyth · 01-26-2018, 11:53 AM

No. It's not plastic. And it's not a byproduct, they make it on purpose.

Don't tell anyone, but I fucking soak my plants in dihydrogen monoxide right up until harvest, and no one knows! (or cares)

As for Sodium Polyacrylate:
The first part (Sodium) is Salt.

The second part (Polyacrylate) is in tons of stuff.
Laundry Soap,
Dish Soap,
Hair styling gel,
Disposable diapers (you know that right?)
Almost ALL makeup,
and you'll like this one... KY Jelly! I would think shoving it up your ass would be worse than sticking it in the ground. And don't say you never did that, because if you've been to a doctor's appointment, chances are good he used it to slip his finger up your ass.

Here's a list of about 150 products that use it.
99% of which are more dangerous to the earth than plain water crystals.

Do your own research next time you read about something with a scientific sounding name.

MJPassion · 01-26-2018, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TychoMonolyth

Prices for Water Crystals, like any weed related products, are meant to rape you every time you bend over. The prices are blatantly obscene. Fuckers. For the most part, they're ripping you off for an idea they stole, repackaged it, and slapped a weed sticker on it. You can find most weed related tools, or very good substitutes all around you if you look.

In this case, Water Crystals can be found in DIAPERS and many other products. Pull a diaper apart and go for the cotton interior. Don't sift out the crystals from the cotton because it'll help hold water too. If you put too much in the ground (I suggest no more than a tablespoon), it'll lift and push your plant right out of the ground when it rains if you put too much.

Crystals are a safe and inert chemical called Sodium Polyacrylate and can absorb 2-300 their weight in water, and your plants can access this reservoir when it needs it.

You can get Sodium Polyacrylate in bulk here and it's cheap! https://snowinseconds.com/. You can get a small pouch for $15. Just over-water it and it'll turn to gel for you and double or tripple the claimed 2 gallons.
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They have bigger sizes, enough to fill a swimming pool, but get about 5 of the smaller sizes for future years. They store better and don't absorb water from the air because they're sealed.

How big do the water crystals get? (Sodium Polyacrylate)
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But I like the diapers with the cotton. If it's good enough for a baby's bottom, it's good enough for my dope.

Alternatively, if you can peel the plastic outer shell off the diaper, you can stuff a whole small diaper in the hole, cover with a bit of soil, and stick your plant on top.

Amazon...
About $20 for 3lbs.

TychoMonolyth · 01-26-2018, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MJPassion

Amazon...
About $20 for 3lbs.

And 3 lbs is a LOT of crystals. I use it because there's no fucking way I'm hauling water.

If it's a dry location with little rain, I'd use more. Less for a place with somewhat regular rainfall.

pothead66 · 01-26-2018, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RedDirtWarrior

It's industrial byproduct, its plastic, it's not natural. I wouldn't smoke weed grown with it.

I certainly wouldn't put it in the ground in nature somewere either.

silica gel is as natural as the soil you step on every day....
it doesn`t you affect plants, at least not in a bad way

"Silica xerogel is tough and hard; it is more solid than common household gels like gelatin or agar. It is a naturally occurring mineral that is purified and processed (this means it`s isolated in a pure form, not mixed with other shit) into either granular or beaded form. As a desiccant, it has an average pore size of 2.4 nanometers and has a strong affinity for water molecules." - wiki

TychoMonolyth · 02-05-2018, 11:48 PM

If there's one trick you can use to up your yield, it's that.

St. Phatty · 02-06-2018, 04:29 PM

If you have time to study the geography, the crevices that become streams in the winter, with waterfalls etc., are often part of larger seams of sand gravel clay etc., that store water and slowly leak it out during the spring & summer.

You just need to visit the grow site in the winter, better if it's raining, and see where the water is - and where it's going to be.

For example if you have a crevice 1/4 mile long, I wouldn't plant at the top, unless you know there's a water source feeding it there.

But further down, all that stored water can be mighty handy to your spring & early summer crops.

It helps if you have shade to protect the plants during the hottest hours of the late summer.

https://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php

Then it gets into Altitude/ Azimuth - where is the sun in the sky when it gets really hot.

Whatever answers you get from an altitude/azimuth website should track with your firsthand observations.

01-20-2018, 01:36 PM	#1
TychoMonolyth Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Lat 45n. Ottawa Montreal corridor Posts: 649	A Good Solution to Help With Watering Guerilla Grows Prices for Water Crystals, like any weed related products, are meant to rape you every time you bend over. The prices are blatantly obscene. Fuckers. For the most part, they're ripping you off for an idea they stole, repackaged it, and slapped a weed sticker on it. You can find most weed related tools, or very good substitutes all around you if you look. In this case, Water Crystals can be found in DIAPERS and many other products. Pull a diaper apart and go for the cotton interior. Don't sift out the crystals from the cotton because it'll help hold water too. If you put too much in the ground (I suggest no more than a tablespoon), it'll lift and push your plant right out of the ground when it rains if you put too much. Crystals are a safe and inert chemical called Sodium Polyacrylate and can absorb 2-300 their weight in water, and your plants can access this reservoir when it needs it. You can get Sodium Polyacrylate in bulk here and it's cheap! https://snowinseconds.com/. You can get a small pouch for $15. Just over-water it and it'll turn to gel for you and double or tripple the claimed 2 gallons. They have bigger sizes, enough to fill a swimming pool, but get about 5 of the smaller sizes for future years. They store better and don't absorb water from the air because they're sealed. How big do the water crystals get? (Sodium Polyacrylate) But I like the diapers with the cotton. If it's good enough for a baby's bottom, it's good enough for my dope. Alternatively, if you can peel the plastic outer shell off the diaper, you can stuff a whole small diaper in the hole, cover with a bit of soil, and stick your plant on top. Last edited by TychoMonolyth; 01-20-2018 at 01:59 PM..
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01-20-2018, 03:08 PM	#2
pothead66 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: terraformed mars Posts: 71	how about soaking the diaper xtals in water to expand, then planting in the hole?
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01-26-2018, 11:53 AM	#5
TychoMonolyth Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Lat 45n. Ottawa Montreal corridor Posts: 649	No. It's not plastic. And it's not a byproduct, they make it on purpose. Don't tell anyone, but I fucking soak my plants in dihydrogen monoxide right up until harvest, and no one knows! (or cares) As for Sodium Polyacrylate: The first part (Sodium) is Salt. The second part (Polyacrylate) is in tons of stuff. Laundry Soap, Dish Soap, Hair styling gel, Disposable diapers (you know that right?) Almost ALL makeup, and you'll like this one... KY Jelly! I would think shoving it up your ass would be worse than sticking it in the ground. And don't say you never did that, because if you've been to a doctor's appointment, chances are good he used it to slip his finger up your ass. Here's a list of about 150 products that use it. 99% of which are more dangerous to the earth than plain water crystals. Do your own research next time you read about something with a scientific sounding name.
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02-06-2018, 04:29 PM	#10
St. Phatty Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 2,376	If you have time to study the geography, the crevices that become streams in the winter, with waterfalls etc., are often part of larger seams of sand gravel clay etc., that store water and slowly leak it out during the spring & summer. You just need to visit the grow site in the winter, better if it's raining, and see where the water is - and where it's going to be. For example if you have a crevice 1/4 mile long, I wouldn't plant at the top, unless you know there's a water source feeding it there. But further down, all that stored water can be mighty handy to your spring & early summer crops. It helps if you have shade to protect the plants during the hottest hours of the late summer. https://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php Then it gets into Altitude/ Azimuth - where is the sun in the sky when it gets really hot. Whatever answers you get from an altitude/azimuth website should track with your firsthand observations.
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01-26-2018, 08:17 AM	#4
RedDirtWarrior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 181	It's industrial byproduct, its plastic, it's not natural. I wouldn't smoke weed grown with it. I certainly wouldn't put it in the ground in nature somewere either.
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02-05-2018, 11:48 PM	#9
TychoMonolyth Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Lat 45n. Ottawa Montreal corridor Posts: 649	If there's one trick you can use to up your yield, it's that.
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