[Ringodoggie]

I call bullshit.

I talked to a friend of mine who is an anesthesiologist and he said the amount of medication you give a patient is dependent on his vital signs (among other things) and changes all the time. There is no set dose or standard amount that's used to keep a person out. The medication amounts are monitored and adjusted constantly during surgery.

So, if a person woke up when he wasn't supposed to, it's because the anesthesiologist fucked up.

I'm not saying that a person who smokes pot might not need more medicine to keep him out. Just that the anesthesiologist would know based upon the vital signs and it would have nothing to do with whether the patient smoked pot or not.

I would like to hear a second opinion from another anesthesiologist. Do we have one here?

[Ringodoggie]

Physician anesthesiologists use a combination of anesthesia medications for surgery, including one – most commonly propofol – to render the patient unconscious. In the study, researchers determined that the amount of propofol required to produce unconsciousness varied widely between patients and was independent of age, gender, weight or height. Close monitoring of the patient’s neurological signs and brainwaves was used to determine when the correct dosage was achieved.


https://www.asahq.org/about-asa/news...-widely?page=4

[Chappi]

I had to have emergency surgery and I had been smoking weed for a whole week straight, I sometimes think it’s what sVed me. Anyway I didn’t wake up until the next day.

[GMT]

General gets monitored, local is a pre set dosage then cut/drill and see.

[bigbadbiddy]

I second Ringodoggie.

Have acquaintances who are anesthesiologists and asked them back when I had to have surgery and heard about this for the first time.

They told me the same thing as my doc when I asked him about it:
"Well BBB uhhhm... any DAILY substance abuse is not recommendable and that includes cannabis but as far as the surgery goes, no, it doesn't affect it".

The doc didn't explain it to me but I later asked an anesthesiologist acquaintance and she explained what Ringodoggie said:
General anesthesia does consider factors such as height/weight for their initial dose or "starting point" (and this could be affected by regular cannabis use). But your levels are constantly monitored along with vital signs and the whole job of the anesthesiologist throughout the entire surgery is to make sure these levels are "correct" meaning you neither wake up nor do you die.

It's why they are paid so highly. If they fuck it up they can cause the hospital to become liable to getting sued by patients if they wake up or remember/feel their surgery. If they fuck up too much in the other direction, they can kill them or cause permanent damage.

Walking that border requires constant alertness, attentiveness and professionalism and that is why they are paid so much.

What OP mentioned is armchair science, fear mongering and anecdotal bullshit.

Or as Mr. President elect would call it: FAKE NEWS, SAD!

Dangerous to spread misinformation like that...

What ever happened to not rely on anecdotal facebook posts but talking to an actual professional in the field, a scientist etc. before "sharing" your "findings" with the rest of the world?

Whatever happened to due diligence and checking your sources???

[St. Phatty]

Originally Posted by GMT

Explains why the dentist gets pissed off with me saying it still hurts after a local and needing a second shot every time.

That's not cannabis, that's "accessory innervation". It means you have extra nerves that were not put to sleep by the original injection.

It's the dentist's job to stop whining & deal with it.

There is a device called a "Ligmaject" which takes some force and pushes novacaine etc. into the bone tissue around the tooth they are operating on.

I've had it used a few times. It's sort of scary, because it takes a lot of force to push the needle in. One time they used it, the ampule with the novacaine exploded (2 inches from my face).

[stoned40yrs]

propofol- wasn't this the drug Micheal Jackson died from.

[Ringodoggie]

Dentists have not used Novocaine for decades. I believe what they use now is called Lidocaine.

And, yes, MJ died from Propofol (among other things).

[Phaeton]

During a difficult wisdom tooth extraction (horizontal growth) I woke up and had not smoked within weeks. I remember the doctor reaching down and pushing the plunger on the valium hypodermic taped to my arm ready for the possibility. It must happen a lot or the extra medication would not have been made so available.

Many times during the early years I needed to stop the procedures and call for another shot.
Finally a nurse explained that I had a 'long buckle' holding the cluster of nerves the novacaine infused. If I would tell the doctor before treatment then this problem would not reoccur.
I do and the problem no longer happens. Information saved further pain.

[Hermanthegerman]

I had exactly that, local anesthesia, an eye operation and than i asked the doctor,: Do you put out the lense now?