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Raw710 · 01-09-2018, 03:18 AM

Does bleach neutralize spinosad? Sorry if it’s to simple of a question I’m not a 100% sure if it’s alive?

gaiusmarius · 01-09-2018, 03:34 AM

i think it will, as spinosad is a bacteria isn't it? what do you use the bleach for anyway in a coco grow?

Raw710 · 01-09-2018, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gaiusmarius

i think it will, as spinosad is a bacteria isn't it? what do you use the bleach for anyway in a coco grow?

I was planning on trying to kill a root infection and maybe some fungus gnat larvae

gaiusmarius · 01-09-2018, 11:29 PM

you can really knock them back by letting your coco get really dry, so dry that it's really light to lift, as dry as possible before the plants actually start to droop. they don't like dry medium at all in my experience, if thats not feasible, you could try solbac in water, some folks even use mosquito dunk stuff and then water the pots with the larva

Raw710 · 01-10-2018, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gaiusmarius

you can really knock them back by letting your coco get really dry, so dry that it's really light to lift, as dry as possible before the plants actually start to droop. they don't like dry medium at all in my experience, if thats not feasible, you could try solbac in water, some folks even use mosquito dunk stuff and then water the pots with the larva

Even though the medium is dry will the eggs still stay alive? You are right by drying medium out Kills larvae

gaiusmarius · 01-10-2018, 04:16 PM

to be honest i'm not sure, in my experience with mother plants it kills them right off. i let my mums get dry every month or 2 to not even give them a chance. but if it's killing the eggs or not i can't tell for 100% sure so don't want to say either way, but it does really help to contain the problem. i noticed it's harder to let the coco slabs get dry enough to have the same effect without bothering the flowering plants. but with pots of coco it works really well.

Mikell · 01-11-2018, 05:11 PM

Spinosad is a mixture of two compounds extracted from a bacteria. It is not a live culture.

Raw710 · 01-13-2018, 06:11 PM

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Spinosad is a mixture of two compounds extracted from a bacteria. It is not a live culture.

Oh ok I was confused of it being live and dead. So it is not actual bacteria?

gaiusmarius · 01-13-2018, 07:03 PM

you will still kill lots of beneficial bacteria in the coco if you use bleach. you really shouldn't get root rot in coco, if you are, something is wrong. anyway if you do use bleach you might want to re inoculate the coco with trichoderma or some such after the bleach treatment.

Raw710 · 01-13-2018, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gaiusmarius

you will still kill lots of beneficial bacteria in the coco if you use bleach. you really shouldn't get root rot in coco, if you are, something is wrong. anyway if you do use bleach you might want to re inoculate the coco with trichoderma or some such after the bleach treatment.

Oh ok I will try that I think I’m getting root rot because of the larvae making my plants suceptiable to diseases :(

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gaiusmarius Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,618	you can really knock them back by letting your coco get really dry, so dry that it's really light to lift, as dry as possible before the plants actually start to droop. they don't like dry medium at all in my experience, if thats not feasible, you could try solbac in water, some folks even use mosquito dunk stuff and then water the pots with the larva __________________ Making BubbleHash with Bubbleator Searching for SourPoison, AfghanDieselHaze and CheeseHaze keeper making canna butter
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01-10-2018, 04:16 PM	#6
gaiusmarius Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,618	to be honest i'm not sure, in my experience with mother plants it kills them right off. i let my mums get dry every month or 2 to not even give them a chance. but if it's killing the eggs or not i can't tell for 100% sure so don't want to say either way, but it does really help to contain the problem. i noticed it's harder to let the coco slabs get dry enough to have the same effect without bothering the flowering plants. but with pots of coco it works really well. __________________ Making BubbleHash with Bubbleator Searching for SourPoison, AfghanDieselHaze and CheeseHaze keeper making canna butter
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gaiusmarius Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,618	you will still kill lots of beneficial bacteria in the coco if you use bleach. you really shouldn't get root rot in coco, if you are, something is wrong. anyway if you do use bleach you might want to re inoculate the coco with trichoderma or some such after the bleach treatment. __________________ Making BubbleHash with Bubbleator Searching for SourPoison, AfghanDieselHaze and CheeseHaze keeper making canna butter
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