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Old 01-05-2018, 07:50 PM #1
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Need help with my ROOTS in COCO PLEASE!

Hi I am new to icmag have made a few posts and it has been a rollercoaster with coco. When I first started growing with coco it was a total success. I run a perpetual grow and have encountered different pests and have taken care of them without fully sterilizing my room. The problem I am having now is my roots are great in my ez cloner then to solo cups they are ok but not exploding like they should. But the real problem is when I transplant to a 1 gallon pot, plant looks great on top. The stems are not as green or thick as they should be. The bottom half where the problem is with the roots. The roots start off white with a lot of tiny hairs and then they start to turn colors from white to brown. Yet there are still new roots piping out sometimes that are white with hairs like it should be but then always turn to the god awful looking brown roots. The first problem I had with coco was fungus gnats and I still do sometimes but never that bad maybe a couple larvae here and there. Then I had root aphids which I took care of them with OGBIOWAR and it really did a great job. I do check my rootzone quite often and not see any crawlers. Could it be to strong of nutes or ph? There is no burning of leaf tips. I am paying close attention of not to over water with little to no runoff from the pots. The plants look good but my yield at the end is a little on the light side. I would normally yield 16-20 Oz on a plant but now it’s downward to 8-10 oz.
I would keep using the OGBIOWAR as a preventative but it seems to invite springtails which I have read both ways of being beneficial and harmful of eating the root hairs. Plus it seems like it does not take care of the fungus larvae 100% anymore.
So with your guys and girls help I would like to know what to look for to fix this problem thank you.
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I had a rootzone infection that caused this as well. plants went from healthy to stalled, to looking underfed and then dead.

my honest opinion would be to sterilize your medium with bleach or similar dead res technique and then once your roots recover you can start over with the beneficials.

if you go the bleach route you do .4ml per gallon hand watered to heavy runoff for the first few days then after a couple days drop to .2ml per gallon for another week or so. bleach breaks down quickly so add it to a small res that will get used up daily right before you use it.

after they are back to clean healthy roots hit them with the beneficials again.

before and afters on some stalled clones that had the infection. most had to be killed but I was able to save a few to demonstrate how it worked and brought them back from the dead. pics are on the other pc. i'll get em up later
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Old 01-05-2018, 11:58 PM #3
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:12 AM #4
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I had a rootzone infection that caused this as well. plants went from healthy to stalled, to looking underfed and then dead.

my honest opinion would be to sterilize your medium with bleach or similar dead res technique and then once your roots recover you can start over with the beneficials.

if you go the bleach route you do .4ml per gallon hand watered to heavy runoff for the first few days then after a couple days drop to .2ml per gallon for another week or so. bleach breaks down quickly so add it to a small res that will get used up daily right before you use it.

after they are back to clean healthy roots hit them with the beneficials again.

before and afters on some stalled clones that had the infection. most had to be killed but I was able to save a few to demonstrate how it worked and brought them back from the dead. pics are on the other pc. i'll get em up later
How would I dose bleach? Have you ever used dutchmasrer zone?
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:13 AM #5
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Would I do that every feeding?
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Old 01-06-2018, 02:03 AM #6
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stupid question but are you getting runoff in the solo cups and letting them dry out between waterings?
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Would I do that every feeding?
No..and please don't just pour hydrogen peroxide into your reservoir lol. There are commercial products prepared at plant safe ratios you can find at your local hydro store.
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I had a rootzone infection that caused this as well. plants went from healthy to stalled, to looking underfed and then dead.

my honest opinion would be to sterilize your medium with bleach or similar dead res technique and then once your roots recover you can start over with the beneficials.

if you go the bleach route you do .4ml per gallon hand watered to heavy runoff for the first few days then after a couple days drop to .2ml per gallon for another week or so. bleach breaks down quickly so add it to a small res that will get used up daily right before you use it.

after they are back to clean healthy roots hit them with the beneficials again.

before and afters on some stalled clones that had the infection. most had to be killed but I was able to save a few to demonstrate how it worked and brought them back from the dead. pics are on the other pc. i'll get em up later
Hey desert_hydro I fully apologize I was reading this when I was driving and I read the first couple lines without full reading.
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Old 01-06-2018, 02:23 AM #9
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stupid question but are you getting runoff in the solo cups and letting them dry out between waterings?
Yes I am I have a side by side test going on right now with ones that are getting watered everyday and ones that I let dry out. I have mixed feelings about letting the coco dry out and watering everyday to exchange the gases. I have tried watering my veg plant in 1 gallon smart pots everyday and I saw no negative reactions from the plant growing up top and neither the bottom until I transplanted them. The pot actually looked great I thought white roots were growing like crazy on the outside until the other side of the pot they were brown.
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Lot of advise on damn few facts. Beware of that shit

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