[armedoldhippy]

Originally Posted by stewart169

First off good for them. Secondly the quantities are whacky. One once per adult or a couple mature plants? So when I harvest a couple plants and have at least 4-5 ounces or more what then? Smoke till I only have one left ??

as for the extra ounces, if left at home (how long ARE your roadtrips, anyway?) unless you are looked at as a seller, i doubt they will come to your house & check. but then, i have my first buzz in a spell, so...so shoot me, i'm trying to be an optimist here.

[igrowone]

Originally Posted by stewart169

First off good for them. Secondly the quantities are whacky. One once per adult or a couple mature plants? So when I harvest a couple plants and have at least 4-5 ounces or more what then? Smoke till I only have one left ??

as i understand it, the 1 oz is the carry around limit
the 2 mature plants and processed plant material is less clear to me
i'm thinking that inside your home, you're good

[Jhhnn]

Originally Posted by igrowone

as i understand it, the 1 oz is the carry around limit
the 2 mature plants and processed plant material is less clear to me
i'm thinking that inside your home, you're good

That's how it is here in CO, spelled out in A64.

[stewart169]

Originally Posted by armedoldhippy

as for the extra ounces, if left at home (how long ARE your roadtrips, anyway?) unless you are looked at as a seller, i doubt they will come to your house & check. but then, i have my first buzz in a spell, so...so shoot me, i'm trying to be an optimist here.

Sadly I don't live in a state where I am in any way familiar with how this works. Hope for the future.

[igrowone]

Originally Posted by Jhhnn

That's how it is here in CO, spelled out in A64.

that's the direction the laws seem to be going
states are looking at other state laws and experiences

[moose eater]

In Alaska, there's a 6-plant max per individual, with a 12-plant max per household. Of the 6-plant max per individual, only 3 can be in bloom (6 total in bloom per household). Even if you're running a quasi-commune, with 15 adults, it's still a 12-plant max per household..

(*Note that our initiative also read, however, that nothing in the law would be interpreted as displacing/replacing any aspects within the 1975 Ravin Decision, and the last time permissible plant counts were legislatively established under the decrim of Ravin, there was a 24 plant max, with very little definition, if I recall correctly, of a per individual versus per household.

HOWEVER, there's little doubt in my mind, based on existing precedent, that if push came to shove, the State could effectively and legally change the previous plant limits under Ravin to match the initiative's limits, or even modify the limits under the initiative, as it's; 1.) Been more than 2 years since the passage of the initiative, and 2.) The State has maintained the authority to (often arbitrarily) establish the line in the proverbial sand where at mere possession automatically (and magically) becomes 'possession with intent to distribute').

Under current law in Ak., a person can 'gift' up to an ounce. A person can possess up to an ounce away from home/in public. But what ever the plants can produce in the home is what they produce, and what you're entitled to keep. So if the 3/6 plants in flower produce over a lb. each, then that's what a person can legally have in their home.

However, I haven't gone out of my way to research how much of the overall aggregate weight (non) limit in the home is by virtue of statute, versus Governor Bill Walker's interpretation (and instruction) at the time of operationalizing the whole shitteree.

And in MOST municipalities I am familiar with here, (and possibly State-wide) no plants may be in view of the public. Whether or not this can be interpreted as permitting outdoor plants inside greenhouses with the traditionally 'cloudy' or 'smoked' translucent poly, is yet to be determined by some poor guinea pig out there. (*Currently the State, as they nose-dive into an economic tail-spin, has greater things to consider and act upon... right up until they start calculating the probable loss in revenues from uber-productive grows from which there may be (or is) re-direction of personal stash to the Black markets.. Then they'll be more apt to make time to address this, I'm sure).

Given the nature of government and bureaucracy, and the manner in which they (eventually) react to any perceived 'looseness' or potentially abused standards in many laws, it's my wager that these limits will eventually be reviewed and reinterpreted... Likely by all the wrong people..

[Jhhnn]

Originally Posted by moose eater

In Alaska, there's a 6-plant max per individual, with a 12-plant max per household. Of the 6-plant max per individual, only 3 can be in bloom (6 total in bloom per household). Even if you're running a quasi-commune, with 15 adults, it's still a 12-plant max per household..

(*Note that our initiative also read, however, that nothing in the law would be interpreted as displacing/replacing any aspects within the 1975 Ravin Decision, and the last time permissible plant counts were legislatively established under the decrim of Ravin, there was a 24 plant max, with very little definition, if I recall correctly, of a per individual versus per household.

HOWEVER, there's little doubt in my mind, based on existing precedent, that if push came to shove, the State could effectively and legally change the previous plant limits under Ravin to match the initiative's limits, or even modify the limits under the initiative, as it's; 1.) Been more than 2 years since the passage of the initiative, and 2.) The State has maintained the authority to (often arbitrarily) establish the line in the proverbial sand where at mere possession automatically (and magically) becomes 'possession with intent to distribute').

Under current law in Ak., a person can 'gift' up to an ounce. A person can possess up to an ounce away from home/in public. But what ever the plants can produce in the home is what they produce, and what you're entitled to keep. So if the 3/6 plants in flower produce over a lb. each, then that's what a person can legally have in their home.

However, I haven't gone out of my way to research how much of the overall aggregate weight (non) limit in the home is by virtue of statute, versus Governor Bill Walker's interpretation (and instruction) at the time of operationalizing the whole shitteree.

And in MOST municipalities I am familiar with here, (and possibly State-wide) no plants may be in view of the public. Whether or not this can be interpreted as permitting outdoor plants inside greenhouses with the traditionally 'cloudy' or 'smoked' translucent poly, is yet to be determined by some poor guinea pig out there. (*Currently the State, as they nose-dive into an economic tail-spin, has greater things to consider and act upon... right up until they start calculating the probable loss in revenues from uber-productive grows from which there may be (or is) re-direction of personal stash to the Black markets.. Then they'll be more apt to make time to address this, I'm sure).

Given the nature of government and bureaucracy, and the manner in which they (eventually) react to any perceived 'looseness' or potentially abused standards in many laws, it's my wager that these limits will eventually be reviewed and reinterpreted... Likely by all the wrong people..

Fortunately for those of us in CO, the 6/3 plant limit per person & grower's home possession non-limits are black letter state constitutional law beyond the reach of the legislature.

Given that, I seriously doubt that the current 12/6 per household limit will withstand constitutional challenge. We just haven't been there yet. I won't be the one to challenge it even though our adult household is larger than two. Six flowering plants more than covers household demand. Why fight the game when playing it gets me what I want?

[gaiusmarius]

it sounds like plenty, as long as you have a supplier of clones. but if you want to keep a stable of genetics, those numbers becoming a bit limiting. of course you can just put 1 plant under 1k of flowering light and keep the rest of your plant numbers as mums. for anyone with ambitions to breed, those numbers are a shit. even just keeping mums is safer when you can keep at least 2 copies of each one you care about, so yeah there should be no limits to vegging plants, they are not psycho active after all. but yeah, it's a good start and definitely better then nothing. where i live we are now allowed any number of plants as long as they are vegging. we can just say it's cbd weed and as long as they contain no thc they will be left alone. of course as soon as you have a flowering space in the same place you are fucked for both flowering plants and the mothers.

Originally Posted by Jhhnn

Fortunately for those of us in CO, the 6/3 plant limit per person & grower's home possession non-limits are black letter state constitutional law beyond the reach of the legislature.

Given that, I seriously doubt that the current 12/6 per household limit will withstand constitutional challenge. We just haven't been there yet. I won't be the one to challenge it even though our adult household is larger than two. Six flowering plants more than covers household demand. Why fight the game when playing it gets me what I want?

If you only grow 6 plants, then why are you so worried about Sessions? Are you or are you friends with those who have secretly vested into store fronts in CO? They get to grow warehouse's while sticking us with 6 measly plants. They should just let people grow as many as they want. What's the problem, your afraid someone is cutting into your money?

6 plants? Is this a joke? It takes 5-6 months to grow,dry and cure a plant that might only net you 1-2 zips. Outdoor even longer. Not everyone grows monsters of larf and plus who in the blue hell are you to tell me how many plants I should grow and how many kinds I can have? I do small high quality and lots more than 6 plants.

The only thing these limits do is keep prohibition going on the little guy to keep him from getting into the market, while empowering the big guy.

Your post exposes exactly who you all are, I'm just letting you know.

It's already fubar. I'm gonna grow,smoke,vape,eat my crop and fuck the police state.

[TychoMonolyth]

We'll only get 4 plants, regardless of sex. So you could end up with only one girl. Then you'd have to wait a year for another go at it.

Medical is different though.