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Old 01-02-2018, 04:56 PM #1
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Jack Herrer not feeling so good. (with images)

hello i was trying to create a thread earlier but could not get the pictures to work properly, so here we go again.

these girls have been starting to get worse and worse, i dont know what i am doing wrong.
they misscolor, dont drink as much and is stalling in growth. they all come from the same mother.

they are in a soil mix of:

50L top soil
50L composted cow manure
2.8L blood meal
2.8L bone meal
15L perlite
0.4L lime.

the room temperature is around 20-25c always and i buffer the water to aroung 6.5-7 ph. no added fertilizers yet. they are under 600w hps atm and good ventilation with lots of fresh air.
i have had some issues with friut flies. but i dont think they do as much harm?

could it be cal/mag problem? this early ?
im thankful for all the help i can get.
best wishes and i hope you all have a great year
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:58 PM #2
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what comfuses me is that some of the plants looks fine, this one for example. they are cuttings from the same mother and live in the exactly same soil and enviroment.
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Could be anything. Overwatering, underwatering, overfertilizing, bad soil, used soil, soil with mold, soil which doesn't absorb water, soil which absorbs too much water.... When you say you had fruit flies, you could be wrong. They are most likely fungus gnats which damage the roots. They get treated with s-f-nematodes / steinernema feltiae, which are parasitic nematodes who eat the fungus gnats' larvae. Also check your roots, check if the soil is evenly wet inside the pot. Thes small one is probably too wet.
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:16 PM #4
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The last pic looks very nice. Would be curious how it flowers.
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This one in last pics looks really good. This can give you explain what happening. There is some kind of pets in your soil maybe from cow shit and your roots is good food for someone right now. Water few plants with strong poison and wait around a week then you will know.
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My guess is a hot mix/hot spot (uneven distrib blood/bone meal.) What's your run-off?
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thanks for your replys guys. here are some more picture i took today.
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My guess is a hot mix/hot spot (uneven distrib blood/bone meal.) What's your run-off?
interesting, that would explain why only some of the plants are looking bad. i will bare that in mind, only way to cure hot-spot is flushing i guess?
i went out and bought a soil-ph-meter today. one you stick in wet soil and it gives you a reading on your soil ph.
once i stick the meter about 3cm (1inch) down in the soil it shows something around 6.5-7 in ph.
when i stick the meter further down, about 15cm (5inch) it shows a totally different reading. somewhere around 5ph or so. look at the pics.
can it be overwatering? the top soil dries out but the bottom soil is too wet and the ph drops?

i was gonna do a run-off test once the soil have dried off, can you give any advice on how to do the test? ive never done it before.

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This meter is junk. If you want something to work you need to spend a lot more $$€€££. Ph soil reading need to be taken as close to main stem as possible.
Go buy cheap tds (ec) meter they are pretty acurate. Then make slurry test. If you have some mixing soil just like this shit in your pots take soil from few place. Mix with little ro water. Wait 30 minutes or 1-2 hours then test ph and ec.
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Your mix is too hot. I would veg my small clones and seedlings more before sticking them in large containers of hot mix. Too much food for such small plants. The big ones will outgrow the problems, the smaller ones might be too little roots to take up all that food plus looks kinda dry. I would give the worst looking one a good soaking with plenty of runoff and just watch it as it gets dry. If it looks better after the pot starts drying out then repeat with affected plants. If not then the other plants will have started looking better. Do what you did with them instead.
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