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Old 12-29-2017, 09:15 AM #1
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Preserving flavour, what extraction method is best?

I'm going to go down the Jump absolute route for my next foray into the extraction world but Ive read over on a few forums that by doing so I'm damaging/destroying terps using this method? If that's the case Id be interested to know your thoughts on which extraction method keeps these valuable terps intact? Considering getting a closed column system with a dry ice jacket to try and keep everything pristine.

I have a sweet dnail setup using a sapphire dish so I'm all about the flavour, I get good flavour from my QWET I'd did a while back but it's running low so it's about time to do another run asap.

Just so I'm clear I grow outdoors every summer and refine my trim and air buds into bubble first (fresh frozen) then melt into oil using either butane or ethanol. This might well change if/when I get into a closed loop extracting as I can process it more directly, retaining terps lost by making bubble.

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The most aromatic ones are typically extracted with LPG, because it is the easiest solvent to get rid of, due to its low boiling point.
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How does one implement a LPG extraction @gray wolf ? id be very interested to know more about that as LPG is cheap and easy to get hold of for me at least.

Would you still need to winterize and vacuum degas the end product?
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I don't do solvent extraction but I can't imagine any solvent extraction being even close to rosin. The solvents (depending on which you use) have to change the flavor and odor on a major scale.

Sorry it's JMO since I have only done solvent extracts a few times but logic dictates here IMO. Low temp rosin.
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Yes I agree with the Wolf BHO seems to have better terps.

I do not like the use of solvents personally. But there is your answer.

I recommend you do some reading online. The extract subject is vast. Many ways of reaching the same goals.

How much money you have to spend on equipment and how much product you intend to process; will decide your method.
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Thanks for the response guys gives me reasons to cheerful. I have tried making rosin and for small amount of bubble it works fine but processing larger amounts is going to be trickier hence why im looking to go down the chemical extraction route.

right now Ive spent zero on equipment but your right mushroom brew id have to spend a awful lot to get setup.

Some low temp hair straighteners and my rosin pouches might be a better plan?
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How much bubble? I wouldn't put more than 2g wrapped in filtres into a straightener.
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half a gram to a full gram per extraction Mikell, just checking out straighteners now
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How does one implement a LPG extraction @gray wolf ? id be very interested to know more about that as LPG is cheap and easy to get hold of for me at least.

Would you still need to winterize and vacuum degas the end product?
To do it right and achieve optimum results is expensive. It would include a closed loop system and a vacuum chamber/oven to finish in.

It also has to be done at subzero temperatures to limit plant wax pickup, so winterizing isn't necessary.

QWET is less aromatic, but still tasty and less expensive to get into.

Rosin also works, but unless done with kif, also has plant waxes.

Hash yield is typically only around 50% until it starts to green, so if you do it with kif, your final concentrate yield is far lower.
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Old 12-29-2017, 08:05 PM #10
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So am I right In thinking that using a dry ice jacket when using a open blast column extraction tube it's doing similar things to sub zero propane, as in it's keeping it that cold it's freezing the majority of wax in place?

Don't mind spending on being able to process the very best if it needs to be.

And when your talking subzero temps are we talking below what a freezer can do, so dry ice will be needed for extractions.

Thanks again guys for all the knowledge .
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