[Ringodoggie]

Originally Posted by Douglas.Curtis

You can literally smoke it all day, every day, for months and not get even the tiniest smoker's cough. It's very useful for people who are having asthma attacks. A filter would simply detract from the experience.

I am that kind of smoker and I have never ever had a smoker's cough. I will, sometimes get too big of a hit as I roll my joints using RAW 'tips' (the little cardboard rolls) and this really opens up the joint to a nice big hit. And, I may cough a little on that.

Still, a filter would definitely cool the smoke. That's never a bad thing.

I just rolled a joint with a filter and I must admit it took way too much taste out for me.

When you smoke 20 joints a day, your tolerance is so high, you really don't get high any more. Taste and the pleasure of smoking become as important or more so, than the buzz. At least for me. It's all about the cure and the taste. I smoke pot like most people smoke cigarettes.

But, this filter thing has always been a question of mine and I was hoping this forum might have the kind of people who can help me find an answer.

[Guy Brush]

Links should work now...

https://www.nytimes.com/1995/01/14/u...e-filters.html

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0ec129d317eca

Two studies on filters, one about the fibres, the other about ventilation holes.

[Ringodoggie]

Thanks Guy. The Huffington Post link is dead. Maybe you can check that and correct it.

[Douglas.Curtis]

Originally Posted by Ringodoggie

I am that kind of smoker and I have never ever had a smoker's cough. I will, sometimes get too big of a hit as I roll my joints using RAW 'tips' (the little cardboard rolls) and this really opens up the joint to a nice big hit. And, I may cough a little on that.

You can get the same kind of hit, without the Raw filter. Push a bit of the flower into the end (or remove a bit if it's stuffed a little tight) and use a toothpick, narrow key (subaru), or other tool to tuck the empty paper in on itself. Kind of like packing a shotgun shell, only folded completely against the inside. No need for a filter, opens up the end while holding the flower in.

Originally Posted by Ringodoggie

Still, a filter would definitely cool the smoke. That's never a bad thing.

When you get the feed and the fade right, it's like inhaling fragrant and flavorful air. It's cool and soft on your throat and lungs.

Originally Posted by Ringodoggie

I just rolled a joint with a filter and I must admit it took way too much taste out for me.

That was my experience as well. lol

Originally Posted by Ringodoggie

When you smoke 20 joints a day, your tolerance is so high, you really don't get high any more. Taste and the pleasure of smoking become as important or more so, than the buzz. At least for me. It's all about the cure and the taste. I smoke pot like most people smoke cigarettes.

I'm a 24/7 medicinal user and I know exactly what you mean. I look forward to medicating with clean cannabis, it's a taste and aroma sensation every time. Lick your lips 45 minutes later and say "YUM" because of the terpenes still there. lol

Originally Posted by Ringodoggie

I am not in a legal state so the only pot I have is what I grow. And, I know what is in it. I guess I would call it clean. I don't use pesticides. I use mostly organic nutes (but not all). I'm sure there's a certain amount of dust, dog hair and household pollutants in it.

Would that make it dirty? Are you talking clean room clean?

Would it really make that much difference? I'm sure pesticides would but, the other stuff would be in such small amounts as not to tip the scales any one way or the other.

Yes?

HEPA filters. Yes, it makes a huge difference. Wait till you see what your filters look like after 2 months of flower. *Most* of that would have been on your sticky cannabis. (Gross!)

All the dust will increase the heat of the smoke. You'll also notice a burnt flavor getting stronger as you smoke the bowl down. This isn't there with HEPA clean cannabis, again properly fed and faded. It's flavor and aroma, on the inhale and exhale... right down to the last hit in the bowl. Sooooo enjoyable.

Originally Posted by Ringodoggie

I was reading about the supply of pot they used in some of the tests of tobacco vs pot and they didn't mention anything about 'clean' as much as they did the proper and common storage and preparation of both substances. (although some of the results in these papers showed clear presence of pesticides)

Yes, very frustrating. I'd imagine it'll be quite some time before testing of really clean cannabis is normal. Honestly, there really aren't that many growers producing it. When we do, not many people get to sample it. Doing my part to change that. lol

[Ringodoggie]

Well, I gotta say that this quest is dying a horrible death. LOL

I can not believe the lack of information and research on what's in cannabis smoke.

I probably know more about cigarette smoke and cigarette filters than RJ Reynolds but I can't find shit on cannabis smoke.

You would think that someone would have put some time into this. There are a zillion posts and papers about what is on the raw cannabis plant but absolutely zero on what's in the smoke.

Given that smoking or vaping is still probably the most common method of cannabis ingestion, I find it odd that there are no studies on it.

What few studies I did find only compared the analytes that are typically in cigarettes.

Standard cotton filters are out of the question. Simply takes too much away. Might be different with the high CBD strain I have coming up. I hear the high CBD strains have shitty taste. However, I am still looking for a way to cool it down. Maybe I'm a pussy or maybe I take too big of a hit. But, I can cough a good one if I take too much.

Very frustrating project.

[Douglas.Curtis]

Canna-Tsu cut I'm growing is 20%+ CBD and tastes like orange citrus. Very nice

[Easy7]

No smoke is clean. Ever look in a ganja pipe after heavy use? Lot's of crude.

Smoke less, vape more. Edibles and tinctues are also good and well. Vapes just are not all there yet for hash. More centered around oil/shatter/wax.

But there is something very calming about smoke if used rarely. Just a bit painful to stay away from when nothing else to use while cleaning the tract.

[Douglas.Curtis]

Originally Posted by Easy7

No smoke is clean. Ever look in a ganja pipe after heavy use? Lot's of crude.

Clean cannabis is mostly vaped cannabinoids and terpenes when burned. The "resin" looks a lot like reclaim. Seriously, clean cannabis is a rarity and everyone is used to what dirty cannabis causes and smokes like.

Live with the idea there's a better world out there. With time and work you'll reach it.

[Easy7]

There is no such thing as clean combustion. I have grown and smoked enough of my own to know it's not going to get anymore pristine. Dirty weed hardly even smokes if it's chem ladden. I enjoy smoke, but I know there is too much of a good thing. Even the purest oil will combust and leave pollutant residue on material. There is always some component to combustion. Plus burning plant material releases a lot of nasties. Those add to the complex taste. There are some thousand chems in coffee, that all shape the flavor.

I have a taste for talakia tobacco. It's smoke cured and takes on a woodie flavor reminiscent of opium and fine ganja. Just a hint of the complex world of chemicals and taste. Honestly it smells bad in the tin, and is best after abstaining and clearing the pallet.

[Ringodoggie]

All smoke is going to have carbon. No doubt about that. And, there's no good in the carbon, that's pretty much for sure also.

That was one reason for the research. Filtering out the carbon and nothing else would definitely seem beneficial.