Does anybody use Kelp, humic, fulvic acid, molasses in coco? - Growing in Coco Coir - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

Dr. J · 12-20-2017, 07:54 AM

Just wondering if anyone has any experience using these with coco? Possible fouler with them maybe minus the molasses?

sethimus · 12-20-2017, 10:51 AM

i use humintech plant health wsg (humic acids + kelp + trichoderma + bacteria), fulvital plus (fulvic acids), amino power plus (amino acids)

plant health wsg up to week 2 of flower, the rest also in later flower, i just reduce the aminos (they come with 9% N)

Goats · 12-20-2017, 06:52 PM

i use a fulvic with jacks 321 and mammoth p in coco and everything is happy.

ExoticProphet · 12-22-2017, 05:41 PM

Yes i use all those expect for molasses. I use a sugar cane based sugar. You could use molasses tho.

Burt · 12-25-2017, 01:25 AM

I use all of those in coco and typically amend the coco itself with 20-30% worm castings and 10-30% perlite
Happy growing!

troutman · 12-25-2017, 01:30 AM

Kelp is rich in potassium and so is coir.

Too much will cause problems and you'll need to use even more Cal/Mag.

So I would pass on Kelp if I were you.

ExoticProphet · 01-01-2018, 10:36 PM

I would just look into General Hydro, Botanicare, Advanced Nutrients, Emerald Harvest, or even Technaflora. Those are well known, well accredited nutrient companies. Pick up the proper feeding schedule and follow it. If you see burn cut down to 3/4 strength. If you continue to see burn drop to 1/2 strength.

sethimus · 01-02-2018, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ExoticProphet

I would just look into General Hydro, Botanicare, Advanced Nutrients, Emerald Harvest, or even Technaflora. Those are well known, well accredited nutrient companies. Pick up the proper feeding schedule and follow it. If you see burn cut down to 3/4 strength. If you continue to see burn drop to 1/2 strength.

translation: stop thinking for yourself, just follow the sheep... /s

ExoticProphet · 01-05-2018, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sethimus

translation: stop thinking for yourself, just follow the sheep... /s

You have to crawl before you can walk. Its not about thinking for yourself its about understanding what the plant needs are. If you don't understand what the plant needs, how are you suppose to piece together your own nutrient line?
Why not take advantage of the people who have already done that and use their products until you understand the plant better?

Mate Dave · 01-05-2018, 09:10 PM

You can add anything to coco. If it's beneficial short term or longterm towards the media or the instant uptake to the plant then I would do it. Remember there are loads of snake oils & boosters that are made for all other media that can be used direct on coir but you must have a complete fertilizer for the growing & a coir specic one helps charge up the media & release optimum levels to the plants.

I used to use The full 12 part AN feed back when it was rich & full of the amino acids & they didn't cut them or amend them. They were sold seperate as they were for multiple media & they said they were more stable as indervidual parts, later they reworked things & we seen it was all hype. The initial £1000 worth were sent from the USA by Tech Mike for free

I would use Fulvic & humic as a drench & Kelp as a foilar. Molassas towards the end unless your going to do inoculation with tea every week as a flush & I'd feed the bacteria with that.

If you activate your fertilizer with oxygen it becomes readily available for the plants to use immediately.

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Dr. J Newbie Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Sandy eggo Posts: 42	Does anybody use Kelp, humic, fulvic acid, molasses in coco? Just wondering if anyone has any experience using these with coco? Possible fouler with them maybe minus the molasses?
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Goats Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Van Shitty Posts: 434	i use a fulvic with jacks 321 and mammoth p in coco and everything is happy. __________________ ~Completed Grow - Rainbow Jones Flood & Drain 600W HPS~ ~Completed Grow - Purple Kush DWC 600W HPS~
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12-25-2017, 01:30 AM	#6
troutman Seed Whore Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: In the Fridge Posts: 1,603	Kelp is rich in potassium and so is coir. Too much will cause problems and you'll need to use even more Cal/Mag. So I would pass on Kelp if I were you. __________________ I just died.
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Mate Dave Propagator Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ex Vivo Posts: 1,725	You can add anything to coco. If it's beneficial short term or longterm towards the media or the instant uptake to the plant then I would do it. Remember there are loads of snake oils & boosters that are made for all other media that can be used direct on coir but you must have a complete fertilizer for the growing & a coir specic one helps charge up the media & release optimum levels to the plants. I used to use The full 12 part AN feed back when it was rich & full of the amino acids & they didn't cut them or amend them. They were sold seperate as they were for multiple media & they said they were more stable as indervidual parts, later they reworked things & we seen it was all hype. The initial £1000 worth were sent from the USA by Tech Mike for free I would use Fulvic & humic as a drench & Kelp as a foilar. Molassas towards the end unless your going to do inoculation with tea every week as a flush & I'd feed the bacteria with that. If you activate your fertilizer with oxygen it becomes readily available for the plants to use immediately. __________________ "The universe is comprised of 2 things Hydrogen and Ignorance"
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12-20-2017, 10:51 AM	#2
sethimus Newbie Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 24	i use humintech plant health wsg (humic acids + kelp + trichoderma + bacteria), fulvital plus (fulvic acids), amino power plus (amino acids) plant health wsg up to week 2 of flower, the rest also in later flower, i just reduce the aminos (they come with 9% N)
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12-22-2017, 05:41 PM	#4
ExoticProphet Newbie Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 39	Yes i use all those expect for molasses. I use a sugar cane based sugar. You could use molasses tho.
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12-25-2017, 01:25 AM	#5
Burt Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,175	I use all of those in coco and typically amend the coco itself with 20-30% worm castings and 10-30% perlite Happy growing!
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01-01-2018, 10:36 PM	#7
ExoticProphet Newbie Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 39	I would just look into General Hydro, Botanicare, Advanced Nutrients, Emerald Harvest, or even Technaflora. Those are well known, well accredited nutrient companies. Pick up the proper feeding schedule and follow it. If you see burn cut down to 3/4 strength. If you continue to see burn drop to 1/2 strength.
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