Cannabinoid CBG strains?

Easy7 · Dec 18, 2017

Curious about the cannabinoid CBG.

I have never used tested cannabis. So my experience with known cannabis is lacking.

What can you tell me about CBG and strains with CBG?

I read subcool has cbg strains. Who else? Word is subcool strains lack strength.

Please inform and a kind thank you!

mushroombrew · Dec 18, 2017

I just tested a strain with 1.6% CBG. 24% total cannabinoids.

But that's all I got on the subject. I was surprised for sure.

Gram Paw smurf · Dec 18, 2017

isn't it a pre cursor, add the (forgotten at the moment) enzymatic catalyst n you've got cbd or thc I believe.
Not sure on any sort of medical or psychptropic effect though.
prob find that info around htough.

cheers,.....................................................gps

CannaZen · Dec 19, 2017

Cannabigerol (CBG) is a cannabinoid found found in higher concentrations in Hemp as opposed to weed selectively bred for high psychoactive THC content. Most strains of medical and recreational cannabis have minor amounts CBG, somewhere between 0.1 and 1%

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https://420evaluationsonline.com/health-and-news/cannabigerol-cbg-better-than-cbd

Gr33nSanta · Dec 19, 2017

I had a strain with 2% CBG, I am letting it go because I do not really like the way it grew. I am not sure I could really notice the effects of CBG. I think you would need a strain with over 5% CBG to feel the effects.

I am not sure any strains are over 5%, perhaps GW might have one, but otherwise you would need some sort of expensive equipment to isolate CBG anyhow.

If you are really wanting a strain high in CBG you would have to create it via selective breeding and I am not sure CBG is valuable enough to bother, time will tell.

mushroombrew · Dec 19, 2017

Gr33nSanta said:
I had a strain with 2% CBG, I am letting it go because I do not really like the way it grew. I am not sure I could really notice the effects of CBG. I think you would need a strain with over 5% CBG to feel the effects.

I am not sure any strains are over 5%, perhaps GW might have one, but otherwise you would need some sort of expensive equipment to isolate CBG anyhow.

If you are really wanting a strain high in CBG you would have to create it via selective breeding and I am not sure CBG is valuable enough to bother, time will tell.

We just do not fully understand enough about cannabinoids to know.

In the near future I hope to isolate Cannabinoids to create tailored blends. And Blends for treatment of different cancer cells.

The next 10 years we will see so much new information. The entourage effect etc.

So much to learn about this amazing plant.

Easy7 · Dec 19, 2017

Who knows, they could totally synthesize cannabinoids and terps for vape juice. That's not where my history with cannabis comes from. Who knows what the future kids will do?

As for CBG, what I read hints at anti-anxiety and anti-spasm effects. Also some anti cancer effects, and maybe some more stuff.

Betterhaff · Dec 19, 2017

Check out socioecologist’s thread in the Hemp forum, “Industrial Hemp in Oregon”. He discusses developing high CBG varieties in the last few pages.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=330712&page=16

Chunkypigs · Dec 19, 2017

OGKB 2.0 tests near 2% CBGa and over30% total cannabinoids.

Easy7 · Dec 20, 2017

Help me identify some qualities to smoked herb with cbg.

Is it giddy? Relaxed? Can't figure why some smoke is trippy verses other qualities.

PDX Dopesmoker · Dec 20, 2017

Easy7 said:
Help me identify some qualities to smoked herb with cbg.

Is it giddy? Relaxed? Can't figure why some smoke is trippy verses other qualities.

Go to the thread Betterhaff linked to and ask socioecologist some questions, he has material thats testing at over 40% cbga

socioecologist · Dec 20, 2017

Thanks PDX and Betterhalf, just saw this thread. Here are the test results (trimmed flower and rosin) from our outdoor production this season. Hardly any terpenes to speak of (0.2%).

This plant is now a grandma...the new generation of pure CBG plants we developed have much higher overall cannabinoid / terpene content (drying the first tester now). The effects of CBG are ... difficult to describe, but unmistakeable--it's a more profound experience than CBD. Definitely a head change, but still not psychoactive...more like focused clarity. I'm high strung and it makes me feel relaxed and calm, while still in control of my consciousness. The physical relaxation is its defining feature; hard work takes a toll on your body day after day, and CBG dabs are powerful enough to reverse full blown muscle spasms for an hour or more (depends on the user). It has saved our crew on the days we overdo it (most).

And just to head off the inevitable questions, yes, they will eventually be available, but no not right now, not even 1 to try etc. etc. We're running field trials on the improved versions this summer, with seed sales to hemp farmers in 2019. Due to its incredibly low THC content (essentially undetectable in flower form), it will set the already exponentially growing hemp industry on fire. Stoked to be paddling into this one...

socioecologist · Dec 20, 2017

Next generation CBG variety finishing up (F2 derived from the pure CBG line above). This one is autoflowering.

There are some really unique characteristics that pop up in pure CBG lines. The trichomes have a distinct silver color; this was noted by De Meijer et al. (2009) when describing the GW CBG varieties. We can reliably pick them out just by visual appearance now (but obviously still use HPLC and genomic screens as well)--they are striking.

Also, the resin is not sticky in the same way as pure THC or CBD chemotypes. It feels a bit like slightly sticky sandpaper. We trimmed a couple hundred pounds of CBG flower with 3 inline Twister T4s without ever having to clean the barrels due to resin build up; THC / CBD requires an alcohol soak every 1-2 hours of run time.

The conversion rate of CBGa to decarboxylated CBG is a super shitty 53%. THCa to THC and CBDa to CBD are both around 88%. This means we'll need to produce roughly twice as much CBGa as we need of CBG, so tens of thousands of acres of ultra high oil content plants are required.

Easy7 · Dec 21, 2017

Again, so what about influence on intoxication?

Also what are some older strains that may of brought the CBG?

Nobody has been working with hemp into drug lines for eons.

PDX Dopesmoker · Dec 21, 2017

socioecologist said:
Thanks PDX and Betterhalf, just saw this thread. Here are the test results (trimmed flower and rosin) from our outdoor production this season. Hardly any terpenes to speak of (0.2%).

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This plant is now a grandma...the new generation of pure CBG plants we developed have much higher overall cannabinoid / terpene content (drying the first tester now). The effects of CBG are ... difficult to describe, but unmistakeable--it's a more profound experience than CBD. Definitely a head change, but still not psychoactive...more like focused clarity. I'm high strung and it makes me feel relaxed and calm, while still in control of my consciousness. The physical relaxation is its defining feature; hard work takes a toll on your body day after day, and CBG dabs are powerful enough to reverse full blown muscle spasms for an hour or more (depends on the user). It has saved our crew on the days we overdo it (most).

And just to head off the inevitable questions, yes, they will eventually be available, but no not right now, not even 1 to try etc. etc. We're running field trials on the improved versions this summer, with seed sales to hemp farmers in 2019. Due to its incredibly low THC content (essentially undetectable in flower form), it will set the already exponentially growing hemp industry on fire. Stoked to be paddling into this one...

socioecologist, thanks for showing up and giving us a briefing, your updates are always exciting and these ones were no different. I guess we can only assume that CBG has a higher melting point if it have stiffer resin glands. Do you have to heat up the nail extra for it? Have you formed an opinion on how CBG affects THC intoxication? Do you feel like your youthful "drug experimentation" was actually valuable career research?

mexcurandero420 · Dec 21, 2017

socioecologist said:
Thanks PDX and Betterhalf, just saw this thread. Here are the test results (trimmed flower and rosin) from our outdoor production this season. Hardly any terpenes to speak of (0.2%).

View Image View Image

This plant is now a grandma...the new generation of pure CBG plants we developed have much higher overall cannabinoid / terpene content (drying the first tester now). The effects of CBG are ... difficult to describe, but unmistakeable--it's a more profound experience than CBD. Definitely a head change, but still not psychoactive...more like focused clarity. I'm high strung and it makes me feel relaxed and calm, while still in control of my consciousness. The physical relaxation is its defining feature; hard work takes a toll on your body day after day, and CBG dabs are powerful enough to reverse full blown muscle spasms for an hour or more (depends on the user). It has saved our crew on the days we overdo it (most).

And just to head off the inevitable questions, yes, they will eventually be available, but no not right now, not even 1 to try etc. etc. We're running field trials on the improved versions this summer, with seed sales to hemp farmers in 2019. Due to its incredibly low THC content (essentially undetectable in flower form), it will set the already exponentially growing hemp industry on fire. Stoked to be paddling into this one...

Any info about the terpene composition?

Easy7 · Dec 21, 2017

So no one knows how it affects the effects?

Sucks never having used tested herbs.

socioecologist · Dec 22, 2017

Easy7 said:
So no one knows how it affects the effects?

Sucks never having used tested herbs.

I tried describing the effects of pure CBG plants above, sorry if not clear. It is non-psychoactive in pure botanical form. If you are asking how CBG modulates THC, that is a difficult question since most of the THC experience is actually driven by terpenes. We've experimented with some THC and CBG oils (and CBD) and there are definitely some sweet spots in terms of generated experience from consumption (super small sample size). We need a lot more data to really understand it all.

PDX: one of the grim realities of my day-to-day is still experimental consumption of unknown, potentially psychotropic substances. It's been a slow and steady burn in that regard.

Chunkypigs · Dec 28, 2017

found three tests on my seeds from Mich today and they were all pretty high in GBG and CBGa.

made me happy that my OGKB bagseed male passes this CBG trait along so well in his progeny.

San Fernando Valley Breath test results
CBC 0.01 % ± 0.10
CBG 0.25 % ± 0.10
CBD 0.01 % ± 0.10
CBDa 0.01 % ± 0.10
CBN 0.01 % ± 0.10
THCV 0.01 % ± 0.10
Δ8-THC 0.01 % ± 0.10
CBGa 3.12 % ± 0.10
THCa 28.12 % ± 0.10
Δ9-THC 0.55 % ± 0.10
Moisture Content 12.18%

Gorilla Breath #1 test results
CBC 0.01 % ± 0.10
CBG 0.17 % ± 0.10
CBD 0.01 % ± 0.10
CBDa 0.01 % ± 0.10
CBN 0.01 % ± 0.10
THCV 0.01 % ± 0.10
Δ8-THC 0.01 % ± 0.10
CBGa 2.01 % ± 0.10
THCa 23.69 % ± 0.10
Δ9-THC 0.88 % ± 0.10
Moisture Content 12.75%

Gorilla Breath #2 test results
CBC 0.01 % ± 0.10
CBG 0.29 % ± 0.10
CBD 0.01 % ± 0.10
CBDa 0.01 % ± 0.10
CBN 0.01 % ± 0.10
THCV 0.01 % ± 0.10
Δ8-THC 0.01 % ± 0.10
CBGa 1.96 % ± 0.10
THCa 20.23 % ± 0.10
Δ9-THC 0.92 % ± 0.10
Moisture Content 11.91%

farmerlion · Dec 30, 2017

Ace seeds Panama Goddess has significant levels of CBG . They have test results on their website. Peace

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