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KIS · 12-04-2017, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wasup

build a soil is top notch state of the art supply site....again use more rockdust for no till..
also i water rockdusts in compost tea....ultra fine silicia sand is my secret weapon..
dont forget covercrops....

to much rockdust is not good for drain , makes pots heavy and can make the soilmix to fine ...this is only negatives from to much rockdust...imo...

bentonit holds water but is in my mix too...

14 liter supersoil no till second run...bit less than 1,5 liter rockdust on 50 liter soil but this is the second run...

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sry for doublepost but i think it helps....

Keep in mind rock dust is a source of heavy metals. You may want to get a test done on the levels in your soil. Cannabis appears to be a heavy metal accumulator. Brookside labs has a test for this.

wasgedn · 12-07-2017, 08:59 AM

oh man... thanx a lot for that tip...

blackpulpit · 12-08-2017, 01:05 AM

Thanks WASUP sorry for late response to you and everyone else. I decided to do something different with all the ingredients I have and this is it, hopefully good with little organic KNF style inputs here and there as time goes on.

All under 2 600 w hps (1000w adjustable ballast)

150 gallon geo-planter 3 x 6 size roughly

1 3.8 cu ft bale Canadian sphagnum peat moss
50 gallons E.W.C.
50 gallons vegetable compost
50 to 60 gallons of mix Lava rock/dried rice hulls/large pumice/hydroton balls
15 gallons coco-chips

12 cups b.a.s. craft blend nutrient kit
5 lbs rock dust
4 lbs Oyster shell powder
3lbs basalt rock dust
8 cups gypsum
6 cups kelp meal
2 cups bat guano "Aurora" dry product
3 lb bag bio-char
1/2 bag Roots "707" I had leftover on top
wetted all down with EM-1 and mixed then added to my container
then layered hay that I soaked in EM-1 solution as well overnight.

Hopefully my calculations turn out to be about right and in time will turn into a nice permanent setup....any thoughts?

Limeygreen · 12-08-2017, 03:58 AM

I would test it, might find somethings out of balance. I assume you're using charged biochar. Might find your nitrogen go down after awhile but if you're doing those inputs shouldn't be an issue. Any thought on insect frass or crustacean meal? The chitin (broken down to chitanase) can help out for a natural boost for insect deterrence. I am not an expert just learning and going so any comments are great for me as well, don't want to steer anyone in the wrong direction.

Weird · 12-08-2017, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bismu

On another note... Did organiclivingsoil shut down?

no they just like free advertisement

bismu · 12-08-2017, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Weird

no they just like free advertisement

Thank you for the response, I still cannot find their website :( I just want to get in touch with the community I love. Any help would be much appreciated!!!

blackpulpit · 12-08-2017, 02:19 PM

Yes I forgot to say I added about 2 cups of insect-frass to the mix. I have no way to test my soil except by adding plants and watching carefully so we will see.

wasgedn · 12-09-2017, 11:43 AM

looks great from ingredients dunno bout dosis...im a meter and celcius guy...
isnt it funny that EU and germany using celcius with 0 ° as frost point...and US is using Fahrenheit which is a german name ergo german scientist...forgive me americans but 0° as frost point and 100 as boiling point looks much better as....sry for offtopic..

how long let you the mix sit or cooking?

blackpulpit · 12-09-2017, 02:54 PM

I will let this or should I say have been letting this cook for about 1 week and will leave it till after the holidays so around January 1st will start planting. I threw in some cilantro and chamomile to see how it comes out just for now, still waiting on my cover crop mix to come in then will plant that as well to start a good mulch.

growingcrazy · 12-09-2017, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bismu

Thank you for the response, I still cannot find their website :( I just want to get in touch with the community I love. Any help would be much appreciated!!!

I am curious too..

So livingorganicsoil.org was started by gascanastan and some others, correct?

LOS.org forums are extinct...a web search redirects me to KIS organics... what gives?

KIS were you part of LOS.org?

I paid for a membership and never even received shit... still waiting on that "free" LOS tee shirt and the highly anticipated phone consult...what a joke.

I will hold further comments.

12-07-2017, 08:59 AM	#12
wasgedn Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: hiding in soil.... Posts: 1,446	oh man... thanx a lot for that tip... __________________ https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....337629&page=30 and btw worldwide organic and fair acriculure from the people for the people (like it was)could feed twice as world population... AND 20% is climate change and 80% ch3mtr4ils and huurp
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12-08-2017, 03:58 AM	#14
Limeygreen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,750	I would test it, might find somethings out of balance. I assume you're using charged biochar. Might find your nitrogen go down after awhile but if you're doing those inputs shouldn't be an issue. Any thought on insect frass or crustacean meal? The chitin (broken down to chitanase) can help out for a natural boost for insect deterrence. I am not an expert just learning and going so any comments are great for me as well, don't want to steer anyone in the wrong direction. __________________ Your best you try, to harm I and I, Aiming to kill. But I love you still Cause you are here to make prophecy fulfill.
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12-09-2017, 11:43 AM	#18
wasgedn Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: hiding in soil.... Posts: 1,446	looks great from ingredients dunno bout dosis...im a meter and celcius guy... isnt it funny that EU and germany using celcius with 0 ° as frost point...and US is using Fahrenheit which is a german name ergo german scientist...forgive me americans but 0° as frost point and 100 as boiling point looks much better as....sry for offtopic.. how long let you the mix sit or cooking? __________________ https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....337629&page=30 and btw worldwide organic and fair acriculure from the people for the people (like it was)could feed twice as world population... AND 20% is climate change and 80% ch3mtr4ils and huurp
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12-08-2017, 01:05 AM	#13
blackpulpit Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 69	Thanks WASUP sorry for late response to you and everyone else. I decided to do something different with all the ingredients I have and this is it, hopefully good with little organic KNF style inputs here and there as time goes on. All under 2 600 w hps (1000w adjustable ballast) 150 gallon geo-planter 3 x 6 size roughly 1 3.8 cu ft bale Canadian sphagnum peat moss 50 gallons E.W.C. 50 gallons vegetable compost 50 to 60 gallons of mix Lava rock/dried rice hulls/large pumice/hydroton balls 15 gallons coco-chips 12 cups b.a.s. craft blend nutrient kit 5 lbs rock dust 4 lbs Oyster shell powder 3lbs basalt rock dust 8 cups gypsum 6 cups kelp meal 2 cups bat guano "Aurora" dry product 3 lb bag bio-char 1/2 bag Roots "707" I had leftover on top wetted all down with EM-1 and mixed then added to my container then layered hay that I soaked in EM-1 solution as well overnight. Hopefully my calculations turn out to be about right and in time will turn into a nice permanent setup....any thoughts?
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12-08-2017, 02:19 PM	#17
blackpulpit Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 69	Yes I forgot to say I added about 2 cups of insect-frass to the mix. I have no way to test my soil except by adding plants and watching carefully so we will see.
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12-09-2017, 02:54 PM	#19
blackpulpit Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 69	I will let this or should I say have been letting this cook for about 1 week and will leave it till after the holidays so around January 1st will start planting. I threw in some cilantro and chamomile to see how it comes out just for now, still waiting on my cover crop mix to come in then will plant that as well to start a good mulch.
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