[DocTim420]

This article presents an argument that supports my reasoning--to do all I can to keep information about me and my DNA off private and public databases. Hell I don't even have Facebook presence...lol, so go ahead and call me Barney Rubble, but it I am hard to find.

Police can request your DNA from 23andMe, Ancestry

Millions of people have handed their DNA over to genetic testing companies like Ancestry or 23andMe to learn more about their family trees.

But when you ship off your saliva, law enforcement could have access to your DNA.

Police could use genetic information it gets from those companies to identify you in a criminal investigation, even if you’ve never used one of those services.

Jacksonville resident Eric Yarham wanted to learn more about his family tree, so he mailed off his saliva to 23andMe.

“Just trying to unravel the mystery that is your genetics,” said Yarham, who lives in the Riverside area. “That lingering 0.3 percent is sub-Saharan African. So that’s swimming around in my DNA." Yarham had no idea police could request his genetic information.

Both 23andMe and Ancestry confirm your genetic information could be disclosed to law enforcement if they have a warrant.

Action News Jax asked 23andMe Privacy Officer Kate Black whether the company notifies customers about that possibility before they mail in their DNA. “We try to make information available on the website in various forms, so through Frequently Asked Questions, through information in our privacy center,” Black said.

According to the company’s self-reported data, law enforcement has requested information for five American 23andMe customers.

So far, the company reports it has not turned over any information.

But Black said she wouldn’t entirely rule it out in the future.“We would always review a request and take it on a case-by-case basis,” Black said.

Ancestry self-reports that it complied with a 2014 search warrant to identify a customer based on a DNA sample.

Spokespeople at the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office, the State Attorney’s Office, the Public Defender’s Office and the Florida Department Of Law Enforcement told Action News Jax they don’t recall any local investigations in which genetic testing information was requested from a private company.

The departments said they don’t know for sure.

“The police make mistakes and I would rather not be on the unfortunate end of one of those mistakes, as a result of my DNA being somewhere that is unlucky,” Yarham said.

But it doesn't even have to be your DNA; if a family member who shipped off their saliva to one of these companies, law enforcement can request their genetic information for “familial matching.”

“They can see what the likelihood is of these certain alleles, of these genetic markers, matching up to make it -- likelihood of whether you were involved in, let’s say, that criminal activity or not,” said Jacksonville Dr. Saman Soleymani, who has studied genetics extensively and been an expert witness in local criminal cases.

Soleymani said he didn't take any chances when he sent his DNA to 23andMe. “I literally sent my kit saying my name is Billy Bob,” he added.

If you or a family member has sent in your genetic material to Ancestry or 23andMe, both companies allow you to delete your DNA results.

Click here to learn how to delete your results from Ancestry and here to do that for 23andMe results.

Source: actionnewsjax.com/news/local/police-can-request-your-dna-from-23andme-ancestry/630565206

[geneva_sativa]

yeah, strangely, a few of those DNA sites have 3rd party disclosure consent. . .

even stranger when you look at some of the people associated with these companies.

[Gypsy Nirvana]

When I was pulled into the cop-shop 13 years ago for alleged criminal damage (I kicked a door and sprained my foot)...and cannabis possession they insisted to take a scrape off the inside of my mouth for DNA.

I said that I wasn't interested to give it to them, and they said that they wouldn't release me on police bail until I did, so I had no choice really.

[aridbud]

Becoming Big Brother more and more....a pill with sensor that digitally tracks if patients have ingested their medication.
https://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsr.../ucm584933.htm

Micro chip implants into employees's wrists, a chip the size of a grain of rice injected between their thumb and index finger.It identifies and tracks chips attached to objects.

DNA sites sharing info. Yikes!

The world is getting weirder by the day and less privacy....Pandora's Box.

[dddaver]

Scary!

From article: "Both 23andMe and Ancestry confirm your genetic information could be disclosed to law enforcement if they have a warrant."

That statement might seem to give some solace or confidence . But afaik, all that getting a warrant takes is for 1 unethical judge to sign it. And we all know there are plenty of those to go around.

The judicial system is corrupt. When Trump can nominate a 36 year old with no prior judicial experience for a federal judgeship, that makes that corruption pretty clear to me.

When presented a warrant to sign, a guy with no experience might sign anything at all. Especially if he is a law and order guy (as most Republicans are), not knowing it's implications at all.

[Mikell]

My fuckin' phone asked for a biometric (fingerprint scan) the other day.

Reminds me of when we had a class project in grade school. Daub your fingers on an inkpad, apply to paper and presto completo, an A+.

[944s2]

Originally Posted by Mikell

My fuckin' phone asked for a biometric (fingerprint scan) the other day.

Reminds me of when we had a class project in grade school. Daub your fingers on an inkpad, apply to paper and presto completo, an A+.

yep my i phone has that,,
still feels peculiar every time i use the phone,,,,s2

[dddaver]

The military took a swab from inside my cheek in '98, before I went to Kosovo. Must be on record somewhere.

I have read that your fingerprints can be taken off a photo of your fingers now.

But I had always assumed your fingerprint to unlock your phone would be kept locally, by the phone. But that very likely isn't true given all this "sharing" shit. And that technology is apparently going to be used eventually to access your home computer? Whoa Nelly.

[DocTim420]

In So Cali, if you are charged with a felony and sitting in a county jail, it is mandatory to "cough up" a DNA sample--but....not so for those charged with a misdemeanor. The DA can do a "spit and acquit" deal, in exchange for a "voluntary" sample of the suspect's DNA, the DA will drop/reduce the charges. The goal is to reduce the backlog of unsolved cases where the suspects' DNA has been collected. Greater the size of the DNA sample pool--greater the number of unsolved cases that potentially can be closed.

BTW...as far as I know (remember, Doc is north of 60 and, BTW thanks to all of you paying FICA tax this year as you are financing my Social Security payments) my DNA is NOT in any database. Unfortunately, I am sure a few my family members have sent their DNA for testing, so if I decide to go on a crazy mushroom cloud rampage, I am sure familial DNA matching would be the "wild card".

[MJPassion]

DNA collection, as a result of a charge, no matter the charge, should be illegal. Especially if the individual does not consent.
Charges mean absolutely nothing to the system!
However, I can see how a convicted person could be required to submit a sample.

The illegal system has been turned on its head!