[RB56]

Originally Posted by straw

Im not planning to get busted, not at all, im just planning so that IF i get busted, i get away the easiest i can!

Im from sweden, here they cut the crop at soil level and dry it. 5kg = 2 years. Im trying to calculate the lowest risk/highest yield

So you want maximum yield from a maximum of 4.99 kg of total plant matter. Even if you only get half the mass in flowers, 2.5 kg is a lot of weed to have on hand. If I produced that much in each flower cycle I'd be stockpiling most of it After 3 runs, I'd probably be overweight on stash alone. Can you get rid of that much weed?

How much space do you have available? What will you use for lights, medium, nutrients? What strains will you be growing? Producing that much weed on an ongoing basis is getting close to being a job.

[bigbadbiddy]

I produce much smaller quantities but also consume less than average it seems.

So I am running into the stockpiling issue even at sub 500g production cycles (it is all for myself though ).

A method to deal with that issue that works for me is to freeze everything but the main cola and maybe a few of the biggest buds.

Everything else I give a rough wet-trim and then freeze it fresh from the plant.

The idea is that I only take the creme-de-la-creme of the buds to dry-trim, cure and smoke as bud while all the middle/lower buds are fresh frozen and turned into hash.

You will be surprised how little weight in hash you get from all your harvest

It's an easy way to "compact" your harvest and hash also keeps longer/easier than bud.

I am not sure if you could even freeze the hash at this point. But there isn't really a need as it holds for a very long time without degrading if just stored light-proof at room temp (if I don't mix something up here).

So in the end, I am not stock piling kilos of bud but a few hundred grams of hash instead, which is much more manageable as it is easier to hide/obscure as well as store.

[Loc Dog]

Can you share a link to info on freezing. I have had tons get old and turn brown.

Need to know what humidity level the material needs to be, and how long it can be stored. Would imagine it would be done at 63% humidity after trim.

Thanks!!

[RB56]

I process 80-90% of each crop into coconut oil for edibles. Coconut oil gets sorted into baking batch quantities and frozen in a chest freezer. I process the weed wet, fresh from harvest. That's about 1 kilo (dry estimate), per run, immediately into the freezer. The total weight with the oil is actually more than the source weed but the final product doesn't look marijuana related. I cure the prime buds for vaping/smoking and usually have 3-4 1/2 gallon Mason jars of curing bud. I regularly remove maintenance trimmings from the site.

I end up having way too much plant matter around for the 2-3 days it takes to process the coconut oil, every 3 months or so.

[Loc Dog]

Originally Posted by RB56

I process 80-90% of each crop into coconut oil for edibles. Coconut oil gets sorted into baking batch quantities and frozen in a chest freezer. I process the weed wet, fresh from harvest. That's about 1 kilo (dry estimate), per run, immediately into the freezer. The total weight with the oil is actually more than the source weed but the final product doesn't look marijuana related. I cure the prime buds for vaping/smoking and usually have 3-4 1/2 gallon Mason jars of curing bud. I regularly remove maintenance trimmings from the site.

I end up having way too much plant matter around for the 2-3 days it takes to process the coconut oil, every 3 months or so.

So for edibles, immediate freeze is OK? Would think it would screw up if for smoking or vaping. I know bang for the buck, properly made edibles are the way to go. Need soy lecithin to magnify the effect, from better absorbtion.

My first batch of cookies, was from cocconutcurry's tek. Ate full cookie and tripped balls, from GG4 sugar trim. I take 1/4th and sleep soundly.

[RB56]

Originally Posted by Loc Dog

So for edibles, immediate freeze is OK? Would think it would screw up if for smoking or vaping. I know bang for the buck, properly made edibles are the way to go. Need soy lecithin to magnify the effect, from better absorbtion.

My first batch of cookies, was from cocconutcurry's tek. Ate full cookie and tripped balls, from GG4 sugar trim. I take 1/4th and sleep soundly.

I don't freeze the plants before processing - fresh plant matter, coconut oil and lots of water. Simmer for 12 hours and separate the plant matter. This is nice because it takes pounds of obvious MJ plant and turns into into pounds of odorless cellulose.

[bigbadbiddy]

Don't have a link for freezing fresh bud handy but I am sure there is plenty of info here on the board. I got a lot of my info from here.

But so there is no misunderstanding:
I don't freeze and keep it for long.
The way I understood it, the freezing part is done in order to better separate the resin from the plants when making the bubblehush later on.

I don't keep the material in the freezer for months.
Usually a week or two and then I start to process it.

Afaik, if you want to store bud longer, you need to use a no-frost freezer. Which coincidentally also allows you to do the freeze-curing method which I think highly off and can't wait to try.
I think I finally get a no-frost freezer this christmas xD


Turning a good portion of the harvest into coconut oil or butter or ghee or whatever is also a very, very good idea.

If you find a way to work around the green hue the coconut oil gets for example, I don't think anyone would be able to tell even upon expection.
I doubt anyone in LEO would be quick enough on their feet and know enough about the subject to stop to think to inspect your butter boxes in the fridge ...

[RB56]

Originally Posted by bigbadbiddy

Don't have a link for freezing fresh bud handy but I am sure there is plenty of info here on the board. I got a lot of my info from here.

But so there is no misunderstanding:
I don't freeze and keep it for long.
The way I understood it, the freezing part is done in order to better separate the resin from the plants when making the bubblehush later on.

I don't keep the material in the freezer for months.
Usually a week or two and then I start to process it.

Afaik, if you want to store bud longer, you need to use a no-frost freezer. Which coincidentally also allows you to do the freeze-curing method which I think highly off and can't wait to try.
I think I finally get a no-frost freezer this christmas xD


Turning a good portion of the harvest into coconut oil or butter or ghee or whatever is also a very, very good idea.

If you find a way to work around the green hue the coconut oil gets for example, I don't think anyone would be able to tell even upon expection.
I doubt anyone in LEO would be quick enough on their feet and know enough about the subject to stop to think to inspect your butter boxes in the fridge ...

Haven't managed to get rid of the green hue, but I'm not too concerned about that. Frozen oil batches are stored away from the plants.

Even though it's illegal here, it's not like it used to be. 20 grams and under gets a warning and the state police actually came out and said they were enthusiastic about not having to deal with small stashes. I've also had conversations with 2 different cops who thought it was a 20 OUNCE limit, which is awesome. LEO thinking here seems to be that van loads are the threshold Regardless. stealth is the way to go. Law enforcement may be less of a risk than before, but rippers are still a serious concern.

And yeah, not telling is the hardest part, but ICMag fills that need.

[straw]

Originally Posted by RB56

So you want maximum yield from a maximum of 4.99 kg of total plant matter. Even if you only get half the mass in flowers, 2.5 kg is a lot of weed to have on hand. If I produced that much in each flower cycle I'd be stockpiling most of it After 3 runs, I'd probably be overweight on stash alone. Can you get rid of that much weed?

How much space do you have available? What will you use for lights, medium, nutrients? What strains will you be growing? Producing that much weed on an ongoing basis is getting close to being a job.

I can get rid of it no problem, but i think i will keep the weight down atleast the first couple times.

My goal is i wanna produce ~400-600g a month.

From what ive learned from this thread and others i think im gonna aim towards a perpertual grow with one veg and one bloom room. 6 yield in scrog using hydro. Even tho the sentence isnt solely based on plant number, it certainly looks better to the judge if i was to have 12 plants instead of 120.

How does that sound guys?

[moose eater]

Pick your path and run with it. Your logic re. plant counts is not uncommon, though it sounds like aggregate weight in your area is the bigger issue. Still, appearances may matter if the time of need ever arises.

My nerves have never/rarely been able to handle perpetual harvest. I've always felt a need for that elongated 'sigh' at the end of a go, where the 'finish line' is more clearly defined. Down-time mattes if you ever get to a point of nerves taking a toll. But while we're all somewhat the same, we are all made of somewhat different 'metal' too.

Good luck to you!!!