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Old 11-17-2017, 11:19 AM #1
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Making seeds in veg-cycle

Vegging plants can make seeds.

This Chunky Cheese (UK Cheese x DeepChunk) was never in 12/12 light cycle but started semi-blooming in veg because of stress; badly root bound etc.

I was flowering a male next to my veg cab and noticed my Chunky Cheese keeper was making few seeds. I saw the same thing years ago on the same plant when it was pollinated with a Chunky Cheese male that started dropping pollen in 18/6 veg light cycle.

Haven't tried germinating these seeds yet and i don't know when i will, just thought it would be cool thing to show to people who aren't aware of this.

Here's the vegging mom and few seeds:







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Old 11-17-2017, 11:32 AM #2
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Some genetics, certains cuttings pre-flower heavy, those are more prone to what happened, as you could see. Sometimes, they don't get completed/done, but yours seem viable, so yeah, goes to show they just want to progress forward, just got have full sex development, and both sexes to happen, crazy smart plants eh?

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Some genetics, certains cuttings pre-flower heavy, those are more prone to what happened, as you could see. Sometimes, they don't get completed/done, but yours seem viable, so yeah, goes to show they just want to progress forward, just got have full sex development, and both sexes to happen, crazy smart plants eh?

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I had just as many undevelopped seeds, those just didn't make the pic.
Yea, i have few other keepers as well that also start growing calyxes when they get badly rootbound and stressed, but not all my keepers do this so easily.
When the plants get repotted to larger containers, they start growing normally again.

The will to survive for cannabis plants seem to be quite strong, yes.
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Oh..
When the Chunky Cheese girl was making veg-seeds years ago, she wasn't semi-blooming like she was in the pics, but the seeds grew in the preflower-calyxes that form in the nodes.
I was quite surpized cause i hadn't even read about this before seeing it.

She only made one or two seeds back then, but i can't remember what happenned to the seed(s). I'm sure i tried to germ it/them, but can't remember if they were duds or did i mess something up, but i didn't grow plants out of those.
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Shit happens!!!

Yes,, I also have seen this..

Those little white hairs that grow just below a limb on vegging plant will attract pollen like krazy glue

I started taking Q-tip dipped in pollen and blowing it directly on those spots on plants under floros vegging 24/7..Dammed if it didn't work!!

Once that lil hair is "tainted">>LOL by just a speck of pollen no matter hours of light that lil hair will start browning and "nature" will do the rest,no matter,controled environment or OD's..

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Yes,, I also have seen this..

Those little white hairs that grow just below a limb on vegging plant will attract pollen like krazy glue

I started taking Q-tip dipped in pollen and blowing it directly on those spots on plants under floros vegging 24/7..Dammed if it didn't work!!

Once that lil hair is "tainted">>LOL by just a speck of pollen no matter hours of light that lil hair will start browning and "nature" will do the rest,no matter,controled environment or OD's..

MJ is a fascinating plant...Its just too damn bad so many ppl out there are so frigging ignorant to relize there is much "more" to be learned..But the Vail has been lifted!!! And we march on to a better day..
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I'm outta likes or i would've liked this then figured out how to unlike it soo i could like it again! Awesome thred and I'm going to try this. I'm not sure if its strain dependant but im gonna find out. Has anyone tried growing seeds made during veg? Thanks for the info, you guys rock.
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I'm outta likes or i would've liked this then figured out how to unlike it soo i could like it again! Awesome thred and I'm going to try this. I'm not sure if its strain dependant but im gonna find out. Has anyone tried growing seeds made during veg? Thanks for the info, you guys rock.
You' just have to find a plant that is easily stressed in veg. Some take more abuse than others ..small pot size and long veg time help.
Blueberry-strains seem to do this fairly easily; that plant in the pictures is UK Cheese x DeepChunk. I have a Pacific13 x NL5 that does it when it gets too large for a small pot. They all get back to normal once repotted into larger containers

I'm gonna try to germinate one or two of those pictured seeds as soon as i have posted this reply.
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Pop,Pop,Pop..
EDIT: both seeds have now germinated

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A playful thought..

If cannabis adapts to it's environment in time, if these kind of "Veg light cycle seeds" would be inbred long enough in 18/6 or 20/4 veg light cycle, would the line start developing larger flowers and develop some kind of auto-flowering trait ?

So who's gonna do some testing with this one? Let's see some commitment! 20-30 years is relatively short time in cosmic scale. I'm sure there'd be some results found by then if there ever was any to be found in the first place

So chime in around the y. 2040 if you're up for the task.
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These look to be growing normaly, no freaks.
If these are males i wont flower them, but females i will at some point.
The one on the left had nice purple on the first leaves right when it popped the seed hull off. A DeepChunk trait, i'm sure.

Both parent-strains have some intersex traits in them, so seeds from these parents aren't the best to see if these kind of "veg-seeds" will produce more hermies.

But if the possible females will only grow few late nanners, then they'd be about on the same "hermie level" as the parents.

The mother plant (UK Cheese x DeepChunk) grows few late nanners around the harvest at 11 weeks. The male was a Haze-leaning CBD 3D, so it's quite possible it might bring in some hermie traits as well, possibly more than the mother.

Every female CBD 3D i had grew late nanners, some more than others.
I wasn't too impressed with this CBD Crew strain. I have read grow reports from people who got hermies from other CBD Crew lines, the SnS Widow was one of them, iirc. No nanners in my CBD Critical Cure keeper that was flowered right next to the CBD 3D girls

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