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Old 11-07-2017, 05:50 AM #31
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lol Jerry and Co just gave themselves a raise today. Of course we need more taxes !

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The raises, approved Monday by the California Citizens Compensation Commission, come on top the 4 percent salary increases that kicked in late last year. Brown’s pay will climb from $190,102 to $195,805, while rank-and-file lawmakers will go from $104,117 to $107,240.
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The mass production won’t take the prices down for the consumer with that tax structure. Farmers will make less, and customers will pay more. The government and dispensaries are the ones who will profit.

Oh well though. If anybody wants my level of quality they’re gonna have to pay for it. I don’t care what market it is. However in my business model, I would still make a lot of money if top shelf indoor drops to as little as 1200 a pound, and I’m still getting 2400. Custom strains are going to be a huge thing in the new market. Everybody wants that new new. I’m gonna try to start releasing one new cut a month.
If I could buy a bag for $10 an eighth and it's a dank cut of SSH I won't pay $30 for something on the same level just because of a new name.

They are DNA testing already so unless you have something truly new we will know something like Blue Dream is nothing more than SSH X Blueberry as DNA has shown already.

The days of making a mystery strain like AK-47 and Jack Herrer are coming to an end. But we do have a few years unless Trump and Congress decides to federally legalize.
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Politicians aren't all good businessmen, this is why you see ridiculous, unsustainable tax rates like these pass.
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If I could buy a bag for $10 an eighth and it's a dank cut of SSH I won't pay $30 for something on the same level just because of a new name.

They are DNA testing already so unless you have something truly new we will know something like Blue Dream is nothing more than SSH X Blueberry as DNA has shown already.

The days of making a mystery strain like AK-47 and Jack Herrer are coming to an end. But we do have a few years unless Trump and Congress decides to federally legalize.
Documentation will be key.

I am definitely not claiming that a cut or a phenotype is a new strain. That is dishonorable. There is no shame in making a new variation of the same strain as long as you’re honest about exactly what it is, and I’m always honest about the genetics of anything I produce. I always give credit to the original breeder. I always share as much as I know. Integrity is important.

Furthermore, it’s not about getting people to pay me more for new cuts, it’s about getting people to buy them period. Im seeing people with dank indoor get stuck with product, just because it’s the same old cuts. People that continue to grow the same old dispensary cuts, with no variations will be short lived in this industry. For example, I like darkheart nursery, but if they want to survive they’ll have to drastically up their game in genetic variety.

I will also try to breed new stable strains. I will always be honest about that breeding process too. A lot of work has been put in to breeding strains, and the breeders deserve recognition. They have taken cannabis landrace strains to where they are now, and it was no easy task. Not only was it hard work, it was risk. Many of them went to prison for it. I have nothing but respect and admiration for the old school breeders that did it right.
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Old 11-08-2017, 01:20 AM #35
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The real reason that these politicians are even considering tax rates this high is to pay for all the pensions. Hundreds of billions of dollars in promises have been made and sadly a majority of it won't be paid out. This is the case with many communist liberal states that have "problems" with their budgets. Look at how bad the state of Illinois is. That will be the first US state to default on its debt, you can bet on that.

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Documentation will be key.

I am definitely not claiming that a cut or a phenotype is a new strain. That is dishonorable. There is no shame in making a new variation of the same strain as long as you’re honest about exactly what it is, and I’m always honest about the genetics of anything I produce. I always give credit to the original breeder. I always share as much as I know. Integrity is important.

Furthermore, it’s not about getting people to pay me more for new cuts, it’s about getting people to buy them period. Im seeing people with dank indoor get stuck with product, just because it’s the same old cuts. People that continue to grow the same old dispensary cuts, with no variations will be short lived in this industry. For example, I like darkheart nursery, but if they want to survive they’ll have to drastically up their game in genetic variety.

I will also try to breed new stable strains. I will always be honest about that breeding process too. A lot of work has been put in to breeding strains, and the breeders deserve recognition. They have taken cannabis landrace strains to where they are now, and it was no easy task. Not only was it hard work, it was risk. Many of them went to prison for it. I have nothing but respect and admiration for the old school breeders that did it right.
Yeah, I definitely do respect the old school breeders even the guys long before Nevil we had a lot of premium weed strains in the US black market.

Of course Nevil, Sam, Ben, Shantibaba, DJ Short, Robert Clarke, etc, etc. Did make great crosses and strains for the world to access openly.

But like any other seed market the price is not going to be like it is today after federal legalization if it ever comes. The UK isn't even close to legalization like most countries in the world. We get legalization in America though many nations will follow only problem is I believe we will need to change that UN drug bill and most countries don't want marijuana legalized.

Definitely a huge risk still especially in the legal market. If the Federal government starts busting dispensaries there will be thousands of RICO cases as everything is recorded some have to be under camera at every part of the process from seed to sale.
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Definitely a huge risk still especially in the legal market. If the Federal government starts busting dispensaries there will be thousands of RICO cases as everything is recorded some have to be under camera at every part of the process from seed to sale.
That’s why it’s important to keep all your personal assets it a separate corporation not hooked up directly to your name. There are states that allow this. Like Montana.
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