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Old 10-29-2017, 03:23 PM #11
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the antifa are not anti fascist or they would be protesting the corporate involvement in gooberment.

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but i believe the whole antifa crap is a ploy to coerce martial law so they can confiscate firearms.

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Does this mean no internet porn or bud porn? Lol!

Also some of us require cell phones for daily function. If this blackout was true, cannot imagine the finacial loss. Also people need 911 and to talk to family.
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Old 10-29-2017, 03:57 PM #13
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...Also some of us require cell phones for daily function. If this blackout was true, cannot imagine the finacial loss. Also people need 911 and to talk to family.
That is the point man.

From a report issued October 12, 2017 https://docs.house.gov/meetings/HM/H...P-20171012.pdf

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Vulnerabilities to EMP

When assessing the potential vulnerability of U.S. military forces and civilian critical
infrastructures to EMP, it is necessary to be mindful of the complex interdependencies of these
highly-networked systems, because EMP upset and damage of a very small fraction of the total
system can cause total system failure.
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Real world failures of electric grids from various causes indicate that a nuclear EMP attack
would have catastrophic consequences. Significant and highly disruptive blackouts have been
caused by single-point failures cascading into system-wide failures, originating from damage
comprising far less than 1 percent of the total system.
For example:
--The Great Northeast Blackout of 2003--that put 50 million people in the dark for a day,
contributed to at least 11 deaths, and cost an estimated $6 billion—originated from a single
failure point when a powerline contacted a tree branch, damaging less than 0.0000001
(0.00001%) of the system.
--The New York City Blackout of 1977, that resulted in the arrest of 4,500 looters and injury of
550 police officers, was caused by a lightning strike on a substation that tripped two circuit
breakers.
--The Great Northeast Blackout of 1965, that effected 30 million people, happened because a
protective relay on a transmission line was improperly set.
--India’s nationwide blackout of July 30-31, 2012—the largest blackout in history, effecting 670
million people, 9% of the world population—was caused by overload of a single high-voltage
powerline.
--India’s blackout of January 2, 2001—effecting 226 million people—was caused by equipment
failure at the Uttar Pradesh substation.
--Indonesia’s blackout of August 18, 2005—effecting 100 million people—was caused by
overload of a high-voltage powerline.
--Brazil’s blackout of March 11, 1999—effecting 97 million people—was caused by a lightning
strike on an EHV transformer substation.
--Italy’s blackout of September 28, 2003—effecting 55 million people—was caused by overload
of two high-voltage powerlines.
--Germany, France, Italy, and Spain experienced partial blackouts on November 4, 2006—
effecting 10-15 million people—from accidental shutdown of a high-voltage powerline.
--The San Francisco blackout in April 2017 was caused by the failure of a single high voltage
breaker.

In contrast to the above blackouts caused by single-point or small-scale failures, a nuclear EMP
attack would inflict massive widespread damage to the electric grid causing millions of failure
points. With few exceptions, the U.S. national electric grid is unhardened and untested against
nuclear EMP attack.
In the event of a nuclear EMP attack on the United States, a widespread protracted blackout is
inevitable. This commonsense assessment is also supported by the nation’s best computer
modeling:
--Modeling by the U.S. Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) reportedly assesses that
a terrorist attack that destroys just 9 of 2,000 EHV transformers--merely 0.0045 (0.45%) of all
EHV transformers in the U.S. national electric grid--would be catastrophic damage, causing a
protracted nationwide blackout.
--Modeling by the Congressional EMP Commission assesses that a terrorist nuclear EMP attack,
using a primitive 10-kiloton nuclear weapon, could destroy dozens of EHV transformers,
thousands of SCADAS and electronic systems, causing catastrophic collapse and protracted
blackout of the U.S. Eastern Grid, putting at risk the lives of millions.27
Thus, even if North Korea has only primitive, low-yield nuclear weapons, and likewise if other
states or terrorists acquire one or a few such weapons, and the capability to detonate them at 30
kilometers or higher-altitude over the United States, as the EMP Commission warned over a
decade ago in its 2004 Report: “The damage level could be sufficient to be catastrophic to the
Nation, and our current vulnerability invites attack.”
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Figure 1. EMP area by bursts at 30, 120 and 300 miles. Source: Gary Smith, "Electromagnetic Pulse Threats," testimony to House National Security Committee on July 16, 1997.


Imagine living a few weeks/months without access to the internet, electricity, or ATM. All NK needs to do is explode an EMP about 300 miles above USA...and poof, no mas America's "lower 48"--and bye bye Mexico & most of Canada.
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That is the point man.

From a report issued October 12, 2017 https://docs.house.gov/meetings/HM/H...P-20171012.pdf




Figure 1. EMP area by bursts at 30, 120 and 300 miles. Source: Gary Smith, "Electromagnetic Pulse Threats," testimony to House National Security Committee on July 16, 1997.
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Imagine living a few weeks/months without access to the internet, electricity, or ATM. All NK needs to do is explode an EMP about 300 miles above USA...and poof, no mas America's "lower 48"--and bye bye Mexico & most of Canada.
Here's an interesting read.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...-of-americans/
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All the more reason to have cash, gold, silver.

If things got real bad there are squirrels and deer around here. Also I work a goat farm. Would LOVE to work a placer mine, but those are a ways away.
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Old 10-29-2017, 04:36 PM #16
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Old 10-29-2017, 05:24 PM #17
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I second the vote for cash, but not too sure about the gold and silver thing.

Since the world's monetary system is based on "faith"...faith that the piece of paper we call "currency" will always be worth greater than the value of the "paper value" it is printed on. Not the old school way--when coins had intrinsic value (usually more than the coin's denomination). Example, the 50 Dollar American Eagle has a weight of 1 ounce (Spot Gold closed Friday at $1,273 USD/per ounce)...hmmm, $20 face value--but melted down it is worth almost $1300....hmmm. I think the penny is the only "non precious metal coin" minted in the US where the value of the metal is worth more than $0.01.

If the shit hits the fan and all monetary systems fail, I doubt silver and gold will be sought after as the currency for exchanging goods and services. Rather the currency of "exchange" probably will be the actual "goods" and "services" that are being bartered...sorta like this: I want some of your pot and you want some of my bottled vodka (which can be used for medical and inebriation purposes)...and neither one of us want gold or silver, what do we do? We agree that this much pot is equal to that much vodka and we exchange your pot for my vodka.

Smart preppers have cases and cases of vodka stored for their "rainy day" scenario...at least majority of the ones I know, very few actually stashed away any significant amounts of gold/silver (lots of food and seeds though). Funny how it is the opposite for the "I don't prep preppers"...they think having a goodly amount of guns, bullets, gold/silver coins, and having sealed airtight bags of $20 bills will suffice (but they have no food, no water or even a "bug out plan"). They assume their "prepper friends" will invite them to join up, when the time coes....lol. That ain't happening...this is not a movie called "Three Musketeers".
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I want both the pot and vodka..I will be armed...lol yeehaw. Stickem up biotches
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It's a simulation, no actual loss of typical services, lol.




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All the more reason to have cash, gold, silver.
if things go bad, copper-jacketed lead chunks will be FAR more valuable...
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