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Old 12-12-2017, 02:16 PM #71
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All the cheese strains I've tried have never made me feel sleepy. They all tasted good and smelled like a straight block of cheese though and had a nice uplifting high!
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Fire OG, Boss OG and Thin Mint are the most relaxing sleepy strains I have.

Double Dream is a classic sativa buzz. With a huge crash after 1 hr. I use bubblehash. Bit racy for 30 mins then out cold!
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Old 12-12-2017, 03:39 PM #73
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Dogwalker OG really helps with sleep for me, but seeds could be hard to find. Florida medical has it in oil cartridges for their vape pens, it works great. Looks like it was originally bred in PNW, maybe riot gear. Highly rated in review comments for ptsd, anxiety, depression as well.
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Old 12-12-2017, 05:11 PM #74
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I tried the blue cheese because it was recommended for sleep because of heavy couchlock but I didn't experience a couchlock but good high.atleast I can make it off my list.
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I am of the opinion with this topic that it is much less to do with the individual strain, even if its sativa leaning and more to do with it being properly mature. Indica leaning things 70 days even if others say they are done in 56 days. Sativa 80+ days minimum.

Also if you can manage and function starting to smoke first thing when waking up in the morning. These two things combined will make it very hard to stay awake far into the night pending you are getting proper exercise during the day.

I suffered insomnia for years before I started growing my own.
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Old 12-12-2017, 09:02 PM #76
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I agree with you Kony, I also noticed that if you smoke sativa hybrids during the day usually at night I don't have many problems to fall asleep anyway when I can't do this usually Bubba Kush send me directly from joint to bed. So fast indeed that recently I've come to dislike that strain. But I admit that when It's 3 A.M. and I can't sleep no matter what, a little Bubba and it's pillow time
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i don't have much exp with indicas but when i let s.a.d. ('98 black domina) go for like 11-12 weeks it didn't become any more sleepy/stoney.
sleepy couchlock effect comes from myrcene. the higher the myrcene content the stonier s strain is. honestly i doubt letting indicas go longer produce more myrcene. i am more inclined to think that it just let some thc to decompose, so the thc:terpenes ration shift little bit in favour of terpenes. the highest myrcene content i've seen has "gemstone" strain. it used to be sold at "mint leaf" dispencary. it has around 4% of myrcene with 0,8% pinene as a second spike, also one the highest terpene content overall, thc around 14%, so thc : terpene ratio is whopping 3:1, the majority of strains are more like 10 : 1.
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i don't have much exp with indicas but when i let s.a.d. ('98 black domina) go for like 11-12 weeks it didn't become any more sleepy/stoney.
sleepy couchlock effect comes from myrcene. the higher the myrcene content the stonier s strain is. honestly i doubt letting indicas go longer produce more myrcene.
First question, who said β-myrcene has a "sleepy/couchlock effect" and/or implied it's the only one responsible for that? (hint, more contribute, even Dr. Ethan Russo said lately ).

Second question, who/what lead you to believe that letting broad leaves and BL Hybrids longer would give you that so linearly? It's a plant! She doesn't care what you think, she does what she wants/ she's wired to do biologically and for this conversation Chemically.

Testing IS/WILL always necessary on each given cultivar/varietal be it lab tested, be it "head" tested on preference. Change your environment and you change even more the variables, even with the same cutting. Might seem overwhelming, but in the end it will be one of the things that saves cannabis as a craft...

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Skunkman said it. as to who implied it's the only one responsible for that - i got no clue. where did you read that?

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... and some like Myrcene made the THC high more narcotic, couchlock, stronger then 100% pure THC. Some like limonene contribute to the up , clear, speedy, psychadelic effects.
This was confirmed by an organolepctic test of 100 questions before and after the tests which were for one THC/terpene combo a day. The testing was double blind...
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Couch lock is enhanced by CBD, but I agree that varieties with no CBD can be couch lock just from THC and terpenes like Myrcene.
On average WLD varieties do have more CBD then NLD varieties, some much more, but what we see analyzed are the selected clones not the average. So they do have less CBD then the average.
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as to second question i guess it is your assumptions about my believe system and they are not correct.
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