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Old 10-22-2017, 05:52 AM #11
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If antibiotics helped, and the 'help' was not (psycho-somatic/placebo effect) (unlikely if all 10 or 11 persons felt relief from the administering of the drug(s) ), then it seems to point to the issue being bacterial.

'Nature' is evolving continuously. It could be some bacterial presence in the water taken in by the deer, or eaten by the deer, or in the butchering area, or in the area the meal was consumed in, area the meal was cooked in.. What ever. But the fact that antibiotics 'helped,' tells me the issue is bacterial.

Antibiotics, that I know of, don't aid in treating neurotoxins of any origin I'm familiar with, nor do they effectively treat viral issues.

So they're likely looking for some strange or newly-found/recently morphed bacteria with a 5-day gestation period.

And like Lyme tick's disease, and the deer-based equivalent of mad cow disease, I hope they either eradicate it quickly, or at least keep it local to where ever it resides now.

As it is, we're seeing ticks and fleas in Alaska that we never used to see, presumably as a by-product of warmer weather and the 'jet age.' Keep all that chit away!! ;^>)
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Mad cow is a prion disorder that destroys neurological tissues in the host. The prion disorder is transmitted by ingesting affected tissues, thats pretty unlikely for deer... cows were fed proteins that were tainted. Id guess it was probably viral or food prep. I'd go with food prep as my guess for such an isolated instance. Much more likely unless we hear of more cases
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If antibiotics helped them then it was not viral but bacteriologic...

Antibiotics dont kill viruses or affect them in any way..
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Mad cow is a prion disorder that destroys neurological tissues in the host. The prion disorder is transmitted by ingesting affected tissues, thats pretty unlikely for deer... cows were fed proteins that were tainted. Id guess it was probably viral or food prep. I'd go with food prep as my guess for such an isolated instance. Much more likely unless we hear of more cases
Many hunters, even those not in the mid-west, were aware of this issue when it first began occurring. The best description was of a mad-cow-like disease, also known as 'chronic wasting disease,' but like I said earlier, I don't think this case has anything to do with that disease.

When cases of chronic wasting disease were on the increase, a number of years ago, hunters I knew in the mid-west (people I'd known from my childhood and adolescent years there) told me they possessed posted phone numbers/contact info, that if hunters saw deer behaving erratically, they were to contact the number, and the area was shut down for hunting.

Perhaps a different on-set or cause, but very similar symptoms as those of mad cow.

https://www.mindthesciencegap.org/2012/11/29/chronic-wasting-disease-a-new-threat-to-pennsylvania-deer-no-gun-required/

https://www.news-journal.com/news/20...il-deer-doubl/

https://www.hcn.org/issues/126/4024

https://www.slate.com/articles/life/food/2004/02/oh_deer.html

https://www.mad-cow.org/99feb_cwd_special.html


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It's also possible that it was a virus that had completed showing symptom around the end of antibiotic course. The ending of symptoms coinciding with the end of antibiotic use could just be a coincidence as well. Symptoms kinda remind me off the tick fever I got in Africa .
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:51 PM #18
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Never once got sick from venison i killed and butchered...yeehaw.....fish heads fish heads rolly Polly fish heads....Dr demento show
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Never once got sick from venison i killed and butchered...yeehaw.....fish heads fish heads rolly Polly fish heads....Dr demento show
Ya this was definitely an isolated incident thats why I was curious.

Stoner4life- There's a restaurant in Japan that's known for their roasted bluefin tuna heads. Definitely on my bucket list.

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You know how expensive that is?way too rich for my blood.I really wanna try shark fin soup but that's even more expensive.
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