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Old 10-21-2017, 06:43 PM #1
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Deer meat mystery: 10 men 'violently' ill after wild venison meal

https://www.wisn.com/article/dear-me...-meal/13061864

Does anyone have any theories on what made these people sick? I know there's more than a few hunters here, so I'd like to hear your thoughts. Symptoms didn't appear for 5 days and as mentioned in the article, there were no gastrointestinal problems, so it wasn't food poisoning. Hmm
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The evidence is almost always gone by the time people have symptoms. It's very difficult to solve these cases. The venison may only be a coincidence. It could have been some other food served with the meal. Or not even the food. One of the guys could have passed something to the group.
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:22 PM #3
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Sounds like they were poisoned.

I would guess the deer ate something that then poisoned the 10 men.
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true yasker, the evidence is usually gone; but here we have a wild harvested & locally butchered deer, I'd bet that somewhere a steak or tenderloin strap could still be found in someone's chest freezer.......
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Could be as simple as that animal had a typical virus at the time of death...

Most deer are eating GMO corn nowadays... gave it up years ago.
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:09 PM #6
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Could've been a chemical or cleanser in the butchering area that came in contact with the meat.

Could've been something in the place where they ate the meat, unrelated to the meat.

Or... aliens. The Extra-terrestrial type, that is... <Yes, that was sarcasm....>
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Hey moose eater with a name like that you must hunt and be good at it
My thoughts were it may have been gutted wrong and nobody knew, is that possible?
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Hey moose eater with a name like that you must hunt and be good at it
My thoughts were it may have been gutted wrong and nobody knew, is that possible?
Doubt it since there were no gastrointestinal issues and symptoms didn't appear to days later. Sounds viral to me. Hopefully its an isolated incident.
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Hey moose eater with a name like that you must hunt and be good at it
My thoughts were it may have been gutted wrong and nobody knew, is that possible?
Moose are members of the deer family, and they are ruminants, like cattle, meaning they have multi-chambered stomachs.

When you cut into a digestive tract in a ruminant, and the 'cud' (with moose, willow leaves, grasses, twigs, etc.) escapes, it can stink heavily (sometimes what draws bear to a kill site), and minimally taint the meat a bit.

When the bile sack is accidentally sliced (the darker greenish-black sack of fluid attached to the liver), that can ruin the meat it touches, as far as taste is concerned.

In black bear, Koreans and other folks of Asian descent commonly use the air-dried gall bladder (bile sack) as a cure-all remedy, and while somewhat toxic (and valuable on the black market) from what I know, ingested in smaller quantities, I don't think it has any serious ill effects. Many 'medicines' and vices are toxins by definition.

If there were some sort of parasite, -that- might explain a 5-day delay in symptoms, but I can't think of any right now that would/could cause violent illness. Properly cooked meat containing parasites typically amounts to extra protein. (meat cooked to an internal temp of 146 f. or hotter)

I know the equivalent of mad cow disease (a protein based issue that, as I understand it, -doesn't- die at high heat) is/can be found in deer in the Mid-West, though it's my understanding the on-set for that is slower, and I don't think it involves violent illness either. (That I know of, we don't have that up here in our coastal deer, the Sitka Blacktail deer, that are in Prince William Sound, Kodiak Island, and Southeast Alaska).

Even with toxins, the likelihood of it taking 5 days to express itself (what ever 'it' is) would be odd.

So, based on what I 'know,' it sounds like a mystery to me.

What ever it is, -I- don't want it..
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Old 10-22-2017, 05:42 AM #10
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Maybe don't eat roadkill deer?
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