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mayhem69 · 01-08-2018, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TychoMonolyth

Like anything in business, find a niche. Personally, I think there's an emerging market for very low THC/very high CBD.

But even in Canada, if you don't know your buyers, you're not going to sell squat. You could stand at the corner and try to sell, but that'll only earn you a few months in jail.

I agree with your statement regarding cbd. I live in Pa. and want to start my own label. I am even thinking about starting a storefront and sell all cbd products.
I think it would do great here. Heck even on craigs list there is barely anyone selling cbd products.
Anyone on these forums know where i can start? Im looking for a good source.

TychoMonolyth · 01-09-2018, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mayhem69

I agree with your statement regarding cbd. I live in Pa. and want to start my own label. I am even thinking about starting a storefront and sell all cbd products.
I think it would do great here. Heck even on craigs list there is barely anyone selling cbd products.
Anyone on these forums know where i can start? Im looking for a good source.

CBD crew and Dr Greenthumbs has good high CBD strains. Make sure you get a few regular so you can get a male in the ground. Also make sure you're miles away from your regular plot. lol

01-09-2018, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TychoMonolyth

Like anything in business, find a niche. Personally, I think there's an emerging market for very low THC/very high CBD.

But even in Canada, if you don't know your buyers, you're not going to sell squat. You could stand at the corner and try to sell, but that'll only earn you a few months in jail.

PA = Any number of plants Felony 2.5 - 5 years $ 15,000
Stupid phony law but the consequences are very real.

I don't ever see them ever doing away with this for they are set in their stupid ways.

They want to have their cake and eat it.

TychoMonolyth · 01-09-2018, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by We Wait

PA = Any number of plants Felony 2.5 - 5 years $ 15,000
Stupid phony law but the consequences are very real.

I don't ever see them ever doing away with this for they are set in their stupid ways.

They want to have their cake and eat it.

Tell everyone you know to swamp your chosen politician with calls and letters. "I'm watching you. If you don't vote for this, I'm voting for the other guy. Even if he's a communist."

The other option is to just pack up and move. Fuck-em.

01-09-2018, 01:09 AM

Chase out all the money changers

By this I mean all of you, every single last one of you in this thread and on God's earth.

For you have all turned this place into a den of thieves.

**guineapig** · 01-09-2018, 01:32 AM

I am a guinea pig and I hate it when the humans clean my cage too.

I agree that the more exotic strains, the more chances there are for smaller growers to succeed, so really there should be a huge effort toward developing new strains, which often involves back-crossing to the Parental generation, and so forth, until desired characteristics are reached, so many great strains have gone missing over the years, and now it is time to reach into the DNA of the Cannabis Plant and develop as many exotic strains as possible.

Of course, preserving the land-race strains would be a complement to this work, as thousands of years of breeding and acclimatization has already made these strains very unique and different.

kind regards from guineapig

Bob Green · 01-09-2018, 04:15 AM

I think the bigger corporations will let the new guys go to war and build up their brands for a few years then try to swoop in and buy out the winners. That also gives them time to lobby for the regulations that best suit a big business model.

The biggest change will be when federal regulations allow companies to move products over state lines. 5-10 years and we will most likely see this along with international imports from traditional hot spots like SE Asia, Africa, Central America.

Rough times ahead for someone trying to make a living off of a small indoor grow.

What is a small grow these days?

What is an acceptable salary for a grower?

TychoMonolyth · 01-09-2018, 10:28 AM

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Rough times ahead for someone trying to make a living off of a small indoor grow.

What is a small grow these days?

What is an acceptable salary for a grower?

Depends on how and where you grow I guess. Medo grows are huge with 25 plants.

When I was a kid, a small grow was 50 plants in the bush. Today, I consider less than 100 a small grow. Large would be 300+.

An acceptable salary? You say that like it's a valid career path. I wouldn't do it for less than 200k. But I've always had a regular job so it has to be worthwhile.

Bob Green · 01-09-2018, 12:30 PM

If your small farm is 100 plants and you need to make a minimum of 200k per harvest the farmer will need to make at least 2k per plant not including expenses/taxes.

If someone can pull off an average of 4-6 lbs per plant and can sell the pounds for somewhere between $400-$800 each then they might be able to pull it off.

But the quality of the flowers would need to be amazing and unique in the new market. The amount of folks who just don't smoke dry herbs keeps growing larger every day. It's just becoming easier for big producers to make shitloads of concentrates from their mediocre grown BS.

TychoMonolyth · 01-09-2018, 12:45 PM

If I need to make 200k, then you can be sure there would be more than 100, and most would go to live rosin (first run) and hash (2nd run). Only the best buds would be bagged. Flower has been going out of favor here.

When the Ontario gov. shutdown the independent dispensaries, it created a glut. That has to work through, so 800 is reasonable. I'll wait for spring time to unload flower for a better price. Keep in mind that commercial medical producers couldn't provide and were running out by July last year.

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guineapig Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In spite of my rage I am still just a rodent in a cage Posts: 4,601	I am a guinea pig and I hate it when the humans clean my cage too. I agree that the more exotic strains, the more chances there are for smaller growers to succeed, so really there should be a huge effort toward developing new strains, which often involves back-crossing to the Parental generation, and so forth, until desired characteristics are reached, so many great strains have gone missing over the years, and now it is time to reach into the DNA of the Cannabis Plant and develop as many exotic strains as possible. Of course, preserving the land-race strains would be a complement to this work, as thousands of years of breeding and acclimatization has already made these strains very unique and different. kind regards from guineapig
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01-09-2018, 04:15 AM	#57
Bob Green Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 163	I think the bigger corporations will let the new guys go to war and build up their brands for a few years then try to swoop in and buy out the winners. That also gives them time to lobby for the regulations that best suit a big business model. The biggest change will be when federal regulations allow companies to move products over state lines. 5-10 years and we will most likely see this along with international imports from traditional hot spots like SE Asia, Africa, Central America. Rough times ahead for someone trying to make a living off of a small indoor grow. What is a small grow these days? What is an acceptable salary for a grower?
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01-09-2018, 12:30 PM	#59
Bob Green Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 163	If your small farm is 100 plants and you need to make a minimum of 200k per harvest the farmer will need to make at least 2k per plant not including expenses/taxes. If someone can pull off an average of 4-6 lbs per plant and can sell the pounds for somewhere between $400-$800 each then they might be able to pull it off. But the quality of the flowers would need to be amazing and unique in the new market. The amount of folks who just don't smoke dry herbs keeps growing larger every day. It's just becoming easier for big producers to make shitloads of concentrates from their mediocre grown BS.
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01-09-2018, 12:45 PM	#60
TychoMonolyth Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Lat 45n. Ottawa Montreal corridor Posts: 649	If I need to make 200k, then you can be sure there would be more than 100, and most would go to live rosin (first run) and hash (2nd run). Only the best buds would be bagged. Flower has been going out of favor here. When the Ontario gov. shutdown the independent dispensaries, it created a glut. That has to work through, so 800 is reasonable. I'll wait for spring time to unload flower for a better price. Keep in mind that commercial medical producers couldn't provide and were running out by July last year.
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