[WaterFarmFan]

Also to be clear, the terpene blends above absolutely alter the effect profile of shatter. I have been taking some older shatter as a base and testing different blends. You can make a much more (but not quite complete) sativa experience using a hybrid base. This is not about flavor - it is about effect.

[WaterFarmFan]

Also to be clear, terpenes are very serious chemical compounds that must be treated with the UPMOST respect. Larger quantities can cause serious injury. Read the MSDS for every terpene that you are using and really understand the effects of inhalation and consumption before using.

[WishDoctor]

when terpenes became the rage in the occult new age community in the 80's people were in the hospital big time consuming that stuff. same way people are now, in another 2-3yrs watch, just going to get real bad with all the crappy underground chemist.
In the 80's it was skin lesions and stomach probs from consumption, now I can see more bag lung shit going down this road.
just because they are in plants etc, does not mean it's good for you to remove and replace, nature has the lock and key, and just watch, I mean we see it already with allot of oil heads who have shitty lung.

[WaterFarmFan]

Originally Posted by WishDoctor

when terpenes became the rage in the occult new age community in the 80's people were in the hospital big time consuming that stuff. same way people are now, in another 2-3yrs watch, just going to get real bad with all the crappy underground chemist.
In the 80's it was skin lesions and stomach probs from consumption, now I can see more bag lung shit going down this road.
just because they are in plants etc, does not mean it's good for you to remove and replace, nature has the lock and key, and just watch, I mean we see it already with allot of oil heads who have shitty lung.

Hey WishDoctor! The last thing in the world that I want is to make myself or anyone else ill. What kind of quantities of terpenes where people consuming back in the 80s? Were they drinking viles of it? Where was it sourced from back then?

[SoulAnnoyed]

Don't care what anyone says. The terps created by the organic Cannabis plant are intended to be vaped. The fake shit on the other hand, regardless of where it's sourced, makes me wanna kill whoever just poisoned me. Night and day.. One improves, the other subtracts.

[WaterFarmFan]

SA - I feel where you are coming from, but if you are that much of a purest, than I assume that you would make all of your extracts yourself. Don't want third party terps, then don't buy commercial vape products. Pretty simple.

When it comes to terpenes, there seems to be some kind of magicians code that nobody wants to really talk about in detail and on the record. This continued secrecy will foster ignorance. Stupid people will always do stupid things (like taking a dab in a room after open blasting butane), but for this could include sourcing terpenes from foreign countries or using non-reagent grade or even tainted sources.

As to using 100% cannabis terpenes, I post plenty on my experiments to extract terpenes from pulverized (pristine) flowers using a vacuum oven, nitrogen assist and a bunch of glass condensers and cold traps. Do you know how much feedback I got? Other than Pangea, Bloyd and a few others, very little. Now why is that? Because a bunch of people are trying to do this, hoarding tech and not saying shit. I also assume there is some patent bullshit going on behind the scenes as well.

So, if we really want people to not have to use third party (non-cannabis) terpenes in potentially too large quantities or from tainted sources, how about the experts that really know about this stuff share their findings. Sorry for the rant. My 2 cents...

[coldcanna]

Originally Posted by SoulAnnoyed

Don't care what anyone says. The terps created by the organic Cannabis plant are intended to be vaped. The fake shit on the other hand, regardless of where it's sourced, makes me wanna kill whoever just poisoned me. Night and day.. One improves, the other subtracts.

I wouldn't call non-cannabis derived fake- Limonene is limonene whether from an orange or cannabis flower. It's like a carbon atom is a carbon atom no matter what.

[WishDoctor]

not fake, seriously dangerous and not meant to be vaped...no matter what you think it's a medical fact.
secret science my ass, it's faek and in the near future this will be known as a dead path as already proven in the 80's-90's

terps are great for aroma therapy but not for internal consumption.

[coldcanna]

Hadn't heard that before now but makes sense to me.... we already recognize them as anti-fungal, anti-tumor, etc... doesn't surprise me it'd hurt us in large doses.

Just the thing thats lost on me is paying tons of dough for "cannabis derived" terps vs cost effective terps sourced from other herbs and fruits without re-inventing the wheel.

[WaterFarmFan]

Originally Posted by coldcanna

Just the thing thats lost on me is paying tons of dough for "cannabis derived" terps vs cost effective terps sourced from other herbs and fruits without re-inventing the wheel.

I am certainly not advocating anyone to pay the current insane prices for cannabis derived terpenes. I am saying that if you have high quality flowers, then the terpenes are already there just waiting to be extracted, in a natural ratio that could be used for safe vape oil. If there is a way to safely extract terpenes in a repeatable fashion, just like the 100s of commercial and DIY products for extracting cannabiniods, I wonder why more people don't discuss these ideas.