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Old 10-05-2017, 05:39 PM
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Please take a look at this short, well produced video by Endoca. This is the video that got me interested in pursuing all this.

Tell me what he does right and what you would change or what steps you would add, staying with his system of using grain alcohol for extraction.

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Please take a look at this short, well produced video by Endoca. This is the video that got me interested in pursuing all this.

Tell me what he does right and what you would change or what steps you would add, staying with his system of using grain alcohol for extraction.

Thanks!

Two more videos on using a home water distiller or the lower wattage ethanol distillation version from Megahome.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObQ_WDT7G5Y


I thoroughly modified a water distiller for flammable solvent recovery, post #'s 213-248 here,

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I've seen this guys video before. A few things about his process that I dislike. First, he seems to handle the material with his hands a great deal. That removes the good stuff. No need to do that, IMHO.

Second, after distillation his method of constant temperature monitoring and adjusting seems unnecessary. In the Endoca video he lets it sit overnight then does simple a flame test to check for residual solvent.

Using sunlight to remove the chlorophyll apparently works but again, seems like an extra unnecessary step not needed if using cold solvent.

As the using a variac with the water distilled, that seems like a good idea. What temperature are you trying to achieve by doing that?
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https://youtu.be/fYMCA_Tg_vk

Please take a look at this short, well produced video by Endoca. This is the video that got me interested in pursuing all this.

Tell me what he does right and what you would change or what steps you would add, staying with his system of using grain alcohol for extraction.

Thanks!
This is a good video that shows the basic steps of ethanol extraction. He does not do anything wrong, but just uses consumer tools without fine controls. You are at the mercy of the temp of the device. A goal in the extraction process is to keep as many terpenes as possible, which give each strain a unique "high". If you do any step too hot, your terpenes are evaporating with the alcohol, which makes a weaker more bland extract. Also, using a vacuum speeds up most processes by a significant factor. If you are doing a small amount, this might not be a big deal. Another factor (which he addresses) is the safety of evaporating large quantities of alcohol in an indoor space. Distilling is safer in that you are capturing the alcohol, and there are multiple ways to do this including Sky's version.

As for purging all ethanol without a vacuum, this is where the video fails. The only way to evaporate all alcohol without a vacuum is to use WAAAAYYYY too much heat, so much that all your terpenes will disappear. I am sure his lighter test works, but only after heating for too long at too high temperature. His process is fine if you are planning to make an edible oil, where you will boil off terps anyway doing a decarb, but not if your goal is to make vapable oil.

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Interested in finding out the correct process needed/used to create the kind of golden-colored, honey like oil used in medical mariguana vape pens.

These are special pens that accept this very thick, slow moving oil. They are not the pens sold in vape stores.

Can this oil be derived using the so-called RSO technique?
You want distillate in your pen, for sure. We sell a cartridge or e-joint that works with pure, uncut distillate, which anyone can tell you is a neat trick. We also quantified the dose rate, and it was 3 times higher than next closest competitor. 6 mg of distillate consumed per 3 second puff.
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The old iSO2 comes to mind

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Some people will truly hate me for this but fuck it. Take your extract, it can be qwet it can be co2 it can be bho it doesn't matter, and mix it with peg 400 on a hot plate stirerer at the lowest temp possible to get it all to be homogenized. The ratio you use will be dependent on what atomizer your using and the starting consistency of your extract as well as the undesirables content of your oil. Find the ratio that works for you but 50/50 will be more then enough. I'd use as little as possible for it to not drop out of solution. Your cutting your oil so it will not be as potent so this really is a shitty way to do it but will also get you the result you want.

Another way to do it would be to use terpines. add them any where between a 1 to 10% ratio. You can source them from extract consultants or true terpines or other people there's more than a few options. Hope this helps you
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...As for purging all ethanol without a vacuum, this is where the video fails. The only way to evaporate all alcohol without a vacuum is to use WAAAAYYYY too much heat, so much that all your terpenes will disappear. I am sure his lighter test works, but only after heating for too long at too high temperature. His process is fine if you are planning to make an edible oil, where you will boil off terps anyway doing a decarb, but not if your goal is to make vapable oil
We have not really discussed this part in detail. I watched a video last night using one of these systems with the tilted round flask spinning in a hot water/oil bath. All the labs have them. Cost $30k and up.

With this one the plant material goes in a "jar" that has a deep freeze jacket surrounding it. Alcohol is added. From there, the extraction is pumped into the flask. Vacuum is applied along with the (low) heat. The vacuum pulls out the alcohol and transfers it to a cooling tower where it chills and becomes liquid again to be reused.

This is where the video ends. Not sure what the final product is, but it had the typical golden amber color.

Is this what the "pressure cooker" looking tank with vacuum pump in one of your EBay links is used for?

Where is the alcohol under vacuum going as I see no cooling attachment in that kit?

What kind if heat is applied to that tank to get the removal process started?

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Take your extract, it can be qwet it can be co2 it can be bho it doesn't matter, and mix it with peg 400 on a hot plate stirerer at the lowest temp possible to get it all to be homogenized.
All ideas and theories are welcome. For my personal needs, I'm trying to accomplish the production of a vapable oil without using additives. Similar to what I'm now having to purchase at my medical dispensary.
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