[Carraxe]

There they are. Not many of them, I planted 30 12 days ago but just 17 sprouted, last two sprouted today.



There will be males and females enough.

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[Dog Star]

Love a thread Carraxe,

also growing Mextiza and i have one male on flowering.. wish to grow F2 cause
you and others claim its a happy stone,that is what i searching for..

now after i sees those Philos explanation i undeerstand why male smell so skunky..


Kind regards,will stay tuned..

[OnceUpon]

i appreciate your breeding goals, and you make me happy to have come by some mextza f2's....

cheers

[Carraxe]

I've a lot of little plants in my tent. The Mextizas are the girls in the background. There are some more, anywhere between my mother plants. Ghana are the plants in the foreground. They will spend a time under that 400W.



Since Mextiza has proven to carry all inbreeding problems related with her mother, Oaxaca '79, I hope this work I'm doing will help to reduce endogamy. But I don't even know if it is possible. I was thinking about an open pollination to reduce endogamy. All the other options I think about (like selecting and backcrossing to best Mextiza specimens) produce more endogamy.

An open pollination would also force to some extra generations of crossing and selection and then more inbreeding.

Some ideas? I think I'm going to sprout some seeds I have from different landrace sativas, to keep the gene pool growing.

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[Koondense]

Originally Posted by Carraxe

I think I'm going to sprout some seeds I have from different landrace sativas, to keep the gene pool growing.

I would probably do that. Pick a few other oaxacan or closest mexican lines and mix them all for open pollination, then select a few good individuals from F1s and backcross to mextiza, one or more generations.

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[Carraxe]

I have just planted some Destroyer from a repro a friend made a couple of years ago. I also planted some Senegal Black and Senegal Angola, gifted by another friend. About 40 seeds in total, plus the 18 Ghana plants I have. And another batch of Mextizas.

I'm going to receive some selected Lilly as well.

I hope I'll have enough nice sativa specimens to cross with my Mextiza males and females. The plan is now to cross F1s and next year backcross to different Mextiza selected males and females, or just go with the F2 depending with the results of the F1. Probably some characteristics are going to transmit easily, but probably not that 9-week-maturing thing at the beginning. I don't mind about the origin of the weed, if I had more Mexicans I'd cross them as well, but since I have a lot of Africans I'll use them. I mind more about the effect and these are about the best and don't need 20 weeks like Hazes.

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[Siever]

Carraxe,

What's your opinion of the Ghana's

[Carraxe]

I had to cut them immature because of the spider mites, at 14 weeks I think. I have some pictures in the Ghana thread from CBG. But I got nice looking plants with resin and smell. I waited too much to smoke them, they were over cured and the bud was white like hay, so my experience wasn't specially positive. I expect to make things better this time.

Anyway, I didn't expect a strong high from this one, but more like a mild happyness feeling. That's what usually happens with sativa landraces. I expect stronger effect and resin after crossing them, due to hybrid vigor. And also due to the intoxicating high from the Mextiza.

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[OnceUpon]

i think you are right to try as many outcrosses as you can, hoping to find something that keeps the mextiza character you like.

then, later....if you do go decide to cross that back to mextiza .i would suggest you find a mextiza individual or hybrid that is from a different population that the one you are curremntly working with

i liked the suggestion of finding other mexican and south american varieties to work in, that is if your africans are working how you like

you got me excited!

[Carraxe]

I have some pictures, and some questions.
Mextizas show quite a lot of mutant grow, so I'll have to cull a good amount. I don't think that it makes sense to do F2, I have to try to dilute genetic defects, and see if it works.

I've also seen a rare edge curling in some Ghana plants. Is that a genetic defect due to inbreeding too? This is the first repro I've made with them, so they would be already very inbreeded when I bought them.


I am really interested in the F1, if it keeps carrying many defects probably the lines are going to be over. Both of them.



I planted a ton of sativa strains' seeds, but I know that only a little amount will do it. Most of that is Mextiza anyway.



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