[EsterEssence]

What steps are you taking when you handle the moldy bud, breathing the spores can't be good for you...

[coldcanna]

@weird: Let me again re-clarify this- this thread is in no way about pushing bad product on people, I never have and never will. I propose this question because a lot of people grow in far northern latitudes with high humidity, days in the 70s then nights in the upper 30's. There is only so far a cultivar choice or preventative spraying can take you. Everyone from a commercial type cropper to a backyard hobbyist deals with this in my neck of the woods, so in the name of science I am here to say that there must be an ethical, sound way to complete this process.


This thread is simply a scientific endeavor- my question being has anybody ever tried distillation to separate cannabinoids from a tainted crude. If its not possible then, of course, the crude will go in the trash can. So once and for all, stop implying that I'm a shady profiteer, I'm saying there's a lot of people out there that would benefit from a safe method here. Grey wolf taught us how to remove all traces of mold from a crude but states that aflatoxins exists. Now my point here is that if the boiling point of cannabinoids is far lower than in theory you should be able to distill it out. Is there anyone here from a scientific perspective that can comment on this?

Again- this isnt a thread for debating the ethics of selling bad product, it is to have intelligent discussion about the chemical processes I mentioned

[coldcanna]

Aflatoxins are a major problem in the food industry, most notably peanuts and corn. There is already extensive research being carried out on the removal of aflatoxins from food products.

Here is a patent on a method using methoxymethane to clean peanuts:
https://www.google.com/patents/US4062984

Anybody on here that consumes food with corn (everything) or peanuts or wheat has consumed food that may have been exposed and then treated. Again folks- all I'm saying here is we should look at where the science lies in our industry and others for this subject matter

[Mikell]

There will always be a bridge between producers and hobbyists. I wouldn't worry too much about it, it is easy to make those choices on a small scale.

Nothing pertinent to your goal CC, simply wanted to chime in. Arguing with Weird is pointless. He will drown you in irrelevant opinion devoid of fact in book long posts rife with innuendo and personal attacks while sucking back neem flavoured joints.

Boy do I miss poking that bear.

[Douglas.Curtis]

Originally Posted by coldcanna

Aflatoxins are a major problem in the food industry, most notably peanuts and corn. There is already extensive research being carried out on the removal of aflatoxins from food products.

Here is a patent on a method using methoxymethane to clean peanuts:
https://www.google.com/patents/US4062984

Anybody on here that consumes food with corn (everything) or peanuts or wheat has consumed food that may have been exposed and then treated. Again folks- all I'm saying here is we should look at where the science lies in our industry and others for this subject matter

At some point, you can bet your last dollar there are big pharma labs working on this exact same problem. Commercialization of cannabis is not going to decrease the tons of moldy cannabis produced each year, it's going to increase it. There will be plenty of companies looking to be able to salvage this stuff to the point it passes quality control testing.

Carry on and good luck in your endeavors!

[mushroombrew]

In theory disstilation should work. But in practice every attempt I have read about is stuck with aflatoxins. So you will need to remove those afterwards. By a means we do not have yet... If you pull it off it would be commendable.
I have always put mold in the trash. But I dont look at you as shady.
Shady would be masking it with terps and selling dime bags lol !!

[G.O. Joe]

Could the multitude of unknown substances produced by some mold growing on plants have substantial vapor pressure below their theoretical boiling point? What if the boiling point of them is partially lower than THC, some are within 50 degrees, and thermal breakdown is also making bad things happen?

Is there is a market for purified THC or things it can be transformed to, perhaps even ending up in a product where it is less than 1% by weight? If a serious chemist is subjecting BHO to serious chemistry for such purposes regardless, is it permissible to use the cheapest most contaminated fit for purpose BHO available? Or shall only the 5% (by weight) most pristine buds of a plant be permitted for any use in the first place - and the rest is mulched by law?

[Weird]

Originally Posted by Mikell

There will always be a bridge between producers and hobbyists. I wouldn't worry too much about it, it is easy to make those choices on a small scale.

Nothing pertinent to your goal CC, simply wanted to chime in. Arguing with Weird is pointless. He will drown you in irrelevant opinion devoid of fact in book long posts rife with innuendo and personal attacks while sucking back neem flavoured joints.

Boy do I miss poking that bear.

lol 2 lights still pay my bills in america, I wonder why?

having to eradicate mold from pot is a marked failure, why not just keep it for head if it is so acceptable

and nfn I ran 4 facilities at one time, never had the occasion to harvest moldy pot

keep arguing at lowering the bar mikell, that is the only thing you seem good at

pathetic

[Weird]

and if mass production makes it ok to grow substandard product because of a new title aka PRODUCER your towing a lower bar then the did during prohibition

but hey you guys work real hard at figuring how to remove mold from pot instead of learning to grow pot without and better yet keep telling people about your integrity and endeavors it is great reference material when showing people why they need to be very wary about mass produced pot and the money hungry fucks who see nothing but dollar signs

Quick kids, god knows you have no other skills or value upon which to make a buck except grow weeds that need to be sterilized from pathogens

[Mikell]

Knowing how to deal with all situations is helpful in this field. What good fortune you had during your short stint as a producer to never have encountered any issues. Bit like a boxer retiring after one fight as the undefeated champion.

Lovely sentagraphs, we're a bit offtopic though, eh? Let's let people with something to contribute carry this thread. Opinions and ill informed assumptions are neato, but I think ColdCanna came here for relevant information.