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Old 09-23-2017, 12:25 PM #1
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Stoned thought about politics!!!

We know that douchebag Nixon made Cannabis a schedule one drug to control the hippies and African Americans.

Could they also have done it because stoned people can see through their bullshit, by seeing things without blinders. Able to put 2 + 2 together, and not believing everything they are told?

I spend a lot of time on facebook, discussing and researching how completely corrupt the government is. It is obvious, but in a police state, they even treat protesters as terrorists.

If the message can not get past the owners of the networks, it can not get on air. Thank Reagan for that one. Repealed a law that required media to report the truth.

This is a video, that summarizes Noam Chomsky's video from 1992, called Manufacturing Consent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M

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It is well known that herb hampers mind control attempts.

It is exactly the reason that it is illegal on the federal level. . . it is why we still see Reefer Madness on front page of MSM outlets in 2017. . . and exactly the reason it is again being threatened by top AG, even as states continue to 'legalize' it.
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It is well known that herb hampers mind control attempts.

It is exactly the reason that it is illegal on the federal level. . . it is why we still see Reefer Madness on front page of MSM outlets in 2017. . . and exactly the reason it is again being threatened by top AG, even as states continue to 'legalize' it.
I having been smoking some QWET oil recently, and examine political aspects from all angles. That way I do not doubt myself, and can debate if needed.

I do not do that here, since frowned upon. Maybe against terms.
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I having been smoking some QWET oil recently, and examine political aspects from all angles. That way I do not doubt myself, and can debate if needed.

I do not do that here, since frowned upon. Maybe against terms.
Could also be that I have analyzed for last 3 years.
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It is well known that herb hampers mind control attempts.

It is exactly the reason that it is illegal on the federal level. . . it is why we still see Reefer Madness on front page of MSM outlets in 2017. . . and exactly the reason it is again being threatened by top AG, even as states continue to 'legalize' it.
Watch that video - it is about constant mind control by the media.
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People who are capable of thinking for themself are considered uncontrollable and possibly dangerous by governments.
It's nothing new.
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i thought so too, but it is just an illusion. wishful thinking.
just take a look at the people here in the forum or in the world, at people you know that use cannabis or maybe at yourself.

it might be true for some people depending on their own personalities but overall i can not see that cannabis has the ability to change people to become more critical or better persons.

it depends on the information you get in your upbringing and the way you are brought up.
your view if the world is a place where only the "strong" survives, what is important in life, if you received a normal human upbringing with love and caring etc.
it is very unlikely that you or me or the majority of people using pot had a normal human experience and therefore can expect to be truly human.

you may have critical thoughts and think you might have some illuminating ideas etc. but you can only think with that which you have learned and experienced.
so let's say you think you are critical about politics and think you can see through their bullshit... but maybe what you believe is true and the truth is also just bullshit... because you are processing information that may be critical of whatever you may be thinking is bullshit but itself is also bullshit...

to get back to cannabis...it was just an illusion of people in power that cannabis was somehow anti-establishment or dangerous to the system, i don't know why. later maybe because it was brought into connection with psychedelic drugs that can show more people something about themselves and the world and have a higher probability to become dangerous to the system... but i think now it is becoming clearer and clearer that cannabis is not dangerous so it is slowly accepted and even more it is understood that cannabis use is pro-establishment and good for the system and helps to stabilize it.

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it also depends on the information you get later on not just your upbringing and if you can integrate that maybe true information into your thought construct and can relate it to other information.
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i thought so too, but it is just an illusion. wishful thinking.
just take a look at the people here in the forum or in the world, at people you know that use cannabis or maybe at yourself.

it might be true for some people depending on their own personalities but overall i can not see that cannabis has the ability to change people to become more critical or better persons.

it depends on the information you get in your upbringing and the way you are brought up.
your view if the world is a place where only the "strong" survives, what is important in life, if you received a normal human upbringing with love and caring etc.
it is very unlikely that you or me or the majority of people using pot had a normal human experience and therefore can expect to be truly human.

you may have critical thoughts and think you might have some illuminating ideas etc. but you can only think with that which you have learned and experienced.
so let's say you think you are critical about politics and think you can see through their bullshit... but maybe what you believe is true and the truth is also just bullshit... because you are processing information that may be critical of whatever you may be thinking is bullshit but itself is also bullshit...

to get back to cannabis...it was just an illusion of people in power that cannabis was somehow anti-establishment or dangerous to the system, i don't know why. later maybe because it was brought into connection with psychedelic drugs that can show more people something about themselves and the world and have a higher probability to become dangerous to the system... but i think now it is becoming clearer and clearer that cannabis is not dangerous so it is slowly accepted and even more it is understood that cannabis use is pro-establishment and good for the system and helps to stabilize it.

just my opinion
It may be since an extreme loner, may look at everything objectively. I can not talk of others, since no exposure.
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It may be since an extreme loner, may look at everything objectively. I can not talk of others, since no exposure.

as a loner you definitely have a higher probability to see things more "clearly" (if you have the capability for it, depending on use of logic, infos, data etc.) but also has the risk of becoming too focused on a view that may be wrong or not entirely correct.
getting information on facebook or other internet sources is highly problematic because you will only get very subjective views and manipulative views and views that probably have an hidden agenda.
if i were you i would read books by scientists (chomsky is very good, but also has a certain worldview) and understand the thoughts that lie behind their ideas and what agenda the person you get the information from might have.

what i know is that objectivity does not exist. it is always subjective what you think and see. but one can try and look for the truth. but for that you must see what the world is and understand your own indoctrination.
it's very difficult, but very interesting and very scary.
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