[Smoke342]

For HTFSPE/ HTCFSPE All you really want to do is dry ice out the THCA, similar to a single solvent dewax for as long as hours to days.

The people with the patent say they take 12 grams of 75% thc oil, dewax out 1.5 gs of 66% thcA+ lechitins and other lipids, then continue with a similar dewax process over hours to days to precipitate out more thcA in a similar manner until they are left with 4 gs of 50% thc sap (HTFSPE), the 1.5 gs dewax and 6.5 gs of fairly pure thcA crystals in the range of 95% pure I believe.

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https://www.google.com/patents/US20170008870

[cyphaman]

Originally Posted by gumby420

ive attempted making full spectrum and gotten some decent crystals at the bottom, but you could still taste sooo much residual solvent in it i wont even smoke it. this is the tech ive pieced together from what ive heard/read:
-take your live resin (whatever material) and pour into a mason jar instead of onto parchment
-agitate that oil inside the mason jar and seal it off
-wait a few days for it to separate and vac for 24 hours at room temp.
-then recap the jars and wait for re separation

should i just vac longer?

am i completely doing some bootleg tech? im curious to see what others ppms are in their full spectrum "sauces"
thanks

Supposedly HTFSE can be purged for 100 hours and will still be liquid, if it separates before then its not HTFSE, thats just based on Extractioneering on IG's posts. I cant back it with any valid proof myself.

I think purging a liquid at room temp, makes sense beacause it will boil off solvent without any heat, whereas if yours has already separated and it viscous and or has solids in it, I would definitely think that to purge it fully youll need some more heat, just my opinion.

[Smoke342]

For sure the technical definition of HTFSPE is essentially the oil you get using their tech, but anyway you remove the THCA to get a liquid/sap that is around 50% thc with double the terpenes and pure thcA are essentially the same products in the end. Extract engineering is defintiely doing the crystal growing method, probably mostly focused on a certain viscosity that is dialed in for fast Crystal growth.

I feel purging this too long would kind of ruin the product as what good is making 2-3x terp sauce if you purge out half the terps, but heat purging would be fairly effective probably get rid of the solvent in a few minutes of boiling but again killing tons of terps, a short thin film would probably be very effective essentially considering its viscosity, not like shatter where the terps are trapped inside.

I was just asking the person who said his HTFSPE and HCFSPE had solvent why he doesn't just purge them longer lol, really a few minutes on heat would solve that problem but sacrifice alot of terps so thin film is probably best.

I feel adding in some crystallized thcA would speed up the crystal growing process as well.

[cyphaman]

SOlventless THCA from ROsin Budder: Thanks to @Rosin.Ryan on Instagram (see his page for better pictures of each step if youre confused, I think he only does this with Hash rosin but I may be wrong, wax content may interfere with the process from Flower rosin, hard to say)

The higher the purity / quality the better the result.

Take a fully nucleated / buddered slab of rosin, (think of it as a hash press)
For whatever reason it doesnt seem to work with sap or shatter consistency so just get to whipping if need be*

Place budder in teabag under 30u (25 is preferred) press very light and slow around 120-130F , The terpene rich oils will begin to flow, (very hard to collect but very terpy and liquid)

increase temp a few degrees, and re press (you will want to remove any visible sign on the terp layer so usually a few more presses are required)

Ramp temp again and again until youre sure that whats left has no terps whatsoever, you may want to empty bag, mix it up evenly and repress it..

The idea is to fully squeeze out every bit of terps until youre left with a dry crystalline powder) this will be white in appearance and likely about 95% in purity

I was amazed at how simple it was, anyone tried this?

[cyphaman]

Originally Posted by Smoke342

For HTFSPE/ HTCFSPE All you really want to do is dry ice out the THCA, similar to a single solvent dewax for as long as hours to days.

The people with the patent say they take 12 grams of 75% thc oil, dewax out 1.5 gs of 66% thcA+ lechitins and other lipids, then continue with a similar dewax process over hours to days to precipitate out more thcA in a similar manner until they are left with 4 gs of 50% thc sap (HTFSPE), the 1.5 gs dewax and 6.5 gs of fairly pure thcA crystals in the range of 95% pure I believe.

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https://www.google.com/patents/US20170008870

this is incredible thank you so much. Makes perfect sense now....I always said it has to be at a certain level or purty to crystalize, and this just proves it. Super stoked thanks for contributing!

[Itsgotatail]

So basically, they're dewaxing in butane at -70°C, and then getting THC-A crystals just by just adding spheres and dropping it to -75°C for a few days?

[Patmando22]

Is the rosin sauce made by jarring rosin and heating slightly??? With good terp rich material of course

[hash head]

for terp sauce.. dewax with very low temperatures.. and then likely added terpenes could make it separate more easily..

for THCA isolate don't know how it would be made from distillate or rosin.. I think a lot of people saying its made this way are trying to throw people off.. I think best way would to be to use preparative chromatography with silica gel.. I want to try with limonene as the non polar solvent for safety instead of using heptane..

[Griffin_Labs]

Sorry if I missed it but does anyone have any info on the terpenes that look like water, something like https://www.instagram.com/p/BbsEvS2F...scend.cannabis I believe they use a waters sfe system but don't know if that is what they used to make this.

[Starwarrior]

Hi guys. I want to make vacuum oven for making HTFSE. I want use plexiglass for making box, nichrome spiral as heating element and converted aquarium compressor as vacuum pump. Tell me please if I do right? I am not sure what temperature and what pressure I need? Does someone have this info?