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Old 08-26-2017, 02:31 AM #11
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No i haven't I prefer how the root system is built in plastic pots. I only use smart pots for final container
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Old 08-26-2017, 02:43 AM #12
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id like to clear up all the misunderstandings regarding my use of vpd and high heat/humidity in my rooms

earlier in the thread I said ive ran as high as 80% before all the way up to harvest and never had rot..and that is true..however no where did I say that 80% to harvest was ideal nor that I do that purposely, only that I have before...as mentioned in the previous post, I learn from trial and error..just like my intake cooling system..and with trial and error there is many tweakings and evolutions of an idea..as in that situation there is no one to copy ...this thread is the result of that

in growing plants there is no way that is 100% right for every plant at every stage of growing..any of that tells you differently lacks the experience to realize that

I use a loose template for the environment in my room, and depending on the plant size, flowering time, and other variables I may tweek things here and there...but I ALWAYS stay in the range of correct vpd...anyone that thinks vpd is just running high heat and humidity all the time should really do some more reading before they post here...here is what the schedule of an average run looks for me environmentally

ALL veg - 85 f / 75% rh (day) ; 80f/ 70% (night) ; 800 ppms co2

week 1 - 85f/ 75% rh (day) ; 80 f/ 70% (night) ; 1000 ppms co2

week 2 - 85f/ 75% rh (day) ; 80 f/ 70% (night) ; 1000 ppms co2

week 3 - 85f/ 75% rh (day) ; 80 f/ 70% (night) ; 1000 ppms co2

week 4 - 82f/ 72% rh (day) ; 78f/ 68% (night) ; 1000 ppms co2

week 5 - 80f/ 70%rh (day) ; 75f / 65% (night) ; 1000 ppms c02

week 6 - 80f /70%rh (day) ; 75f / 65% (night) ; 1000 ppms co2

week 7 - 78f/68% rh (day) ; 72 f/ 62% (night) ; 1000 ppms co2

week 8 - 75f/ 65%rh (day) ; 70f/ 60% (night) ; 0 ppms co2

week 9 - 70f /60% rh (day) ; 60f/ 50% (night) ; 0 ppm c02



That is the average range in my room for a 63 day strain..If its a 56 or 70 day strain I just extend or shorten the temps/rh for the stretch period...The dropping of temps and rh is not to prevent rot as that has truly never been an issue in my rooms..but its to create denser flowers. sometimes it can bring more color and fragrance as well..ive essentially started running my rooms to mirror the natural transition of the seasons where its hot and humid in the summer to benefit vegetative growth but then cools down and dries out to benefit the ripening phase of the last few weeks of flower

now with that said, this is what I consider ideal temps/rh...but that's not to say that anything outside of that will harm the plant..people need to understand just how resilient this plant is..for example , I'm currently growing in greenhouses outdoors now and my night time humidity is always in the 80s due to the humidity of the NE. and has been the entire flowering period..im harvesting as we speak and rot is non existent..because I have an obsene amount of air movement..so although I wouldn't advise someone that 80% rh is ideal to intentionally run, I wouldn't say its the devil either like some people here have..when you understand the variable of high RH and know how to balance the other variable such as wind along side it,to its benefit, then it demystifies the fear of high RH in a grow room

hopefully that can put this beaten dead horse to sleep
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Old 08-26-2017, 04:23 PM #13
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Thanks all for taking interest in my thread. Growing DTW with mulit-feeding is great. I've converted a few friends over to this way of growing and they are getting unreal results.

About the PH, I like to keep my PH at 5.8-6.0 right up to the end of flower stretch. Once the plants have stopped stretching and start to put their energy into bud production I keep my PH at 6.0-6.2. There are variables that make the exception, for example if I think they look a little bit Nitrogen toxic (during veg or flower) I'll keep the PH at 6.2 because at this PH less Nitrogen is available, Nitrogen is more freely available the closer you get to 5.8.

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I think the problem people have with flush is that they are trying to remove everything they spent weeks/months adding in..

The original idea behind a flush was just to remove any excess salts from the medium..... People take this to the extreme and I believe they hurt their yield and flavor by removing too much.... just my 2 cents
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Old 08-26-2017, 04:56 PM #15
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I think the problem people have with flush is that they are trying to remove everything they spent weeks/months adding in..

The original idea behind a flush was just to remove any excess salts from the medium..... People take this to the extreme and I believe they hurt their yield and flavor by removing too much.... just my 2 cents
Yea, I kind of hear the gambit when looking it up. Some say those who don't flush cannot have the same smooth burn (white ash). Some say those who flush don't know how to cure bud correctly. "Many Sides" lol.
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Subbed for the show. Like the way your posting quotes from the great growers that came before you, All summarized in 1 thread.

Best of luck with your grow and may all your Buds be Huge

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Subbed for the show. Like the way your posting quotes from the great growers that came before you, All summarized in 1 thread.

Best of luck with your grow and may all your Buds be Huge

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Thanks! Hopefully I get something going along these lines

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Old 08-26-2017, 05:50 PM #18
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Update! We have SPROUTOFF!
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:38 PM #19
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Looking good, Looking good. Did everything but clorox the walls. Not really. It's kind of still messy for a grow room I think (after reading Moonshine's thread), but "That'll do pig".

Room Is approximately 20' x 5'. Have a pretty nice window A/C in there that takes care of me pretty well. Will be running a dehumidifier for the "o shit, just in case" moment that seems to follow me around. Will also probably be running a chiller on my reservoir per "Coco Trees" thread....we shall see.
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What's in the box?!??!!?!?
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