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trichrider · 07-27-2017, 04:53 PM

California has too much pot, and growers won't be able to export the surplus.

(Los Angeles Times)
A leader of California’s marijuana industry warned Wednesday that the state’s cannabis growers produce eight times the pot that is consumed in the state so some will face “painful” pressure to reduce crops under new state regulations that will ban exports after Jan. 1.

ALSO: Legal marijuana could be a $5-billion boon to California's economy

Some marijuana growers will stay in the black market and continue to illegally send cannabis to other states, which is also not allowed under federal law, said Hezekiah Allen, executive director of the California Growers’ Assn.

“We are producing too much,” Allen said, adding state-licensed growers “are going to have to scale back. We are on a painful downsizing curve.”

He said some marijuana growers may stop, while others just won't apply for state permits.

Allen made his comments to the Sacramento Press Club during a panel discussion that also included Joseph Devlin, chief of Cannabis Policy and Enforcement for City of Sacramento, and Lori Ajax, chief of the state’s Bureau of Medical Cannabis Regulation.

Devlin said estimates he has heard put California production at five times the state consumption; one consultant in the audience said the number may be 12 times what is consumed in the state.

Ajax agreed with Allen that some cannabis cultivators may have to scale back while others may never apply for a state license.

“For right now, our goal is to get folks into the regulated market, as many as possible,” Ajax said. But, she added, “There are some people who will never come into the regulated market.”

Those people, she said, will eventually face enforcement actions for growing marijuana without a state license.

Medical marijuana use was approved by California voters two decades ago. Voters in November approved the legal sale and possession of an ounce of marijuana for recreational use.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/ess...htmlstory.html

whadya think?

St. Phatty · 07-27-2017, 05:43 PM

So, if Corn farmers can get paid to not grow Corn ...

How about some subsidies for us Cannabis Growers ???

stoned-trout · 07-27-2017, 05:50 PM

Ban exports? Now that's funny. Yeehaw... Can u say fuck the feds??? Cause that's what the guy holding 100 pounds or more will be saying eventually.... enforcement will come from the $$$$ generated by the so called legal growers.. and taxes....it will be worse than ever...mark my words¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...along with growing charges expect tax evasion...also expect a few folks to be made an example of...hate to be them

trichrider · 07-27-2017, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stoned-trout

Ban exports? Now that's funny. Yeehaw... Can u say fuck the feds??? Cause that's what the guy holding 100 pounds or more will be saying eventually.... enforcement will come from the $$$$ generated by the so called legal growers.. and taxes....it will be worse than ever...mark my words¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...along with growing charges expect tax evasion...also expect a few folks to be made an example of...hate to be them

this is what i was thinking.
now besides charges for growing/exporting you can expect charges of tax evasion.
the taxes from every gram legally sold is paying for someone being persecuted/arrested/imprisoned.
what a shitstorm legality has formed.

shaggyballs · 07-27-2017, 06:42 PM

I said it before and I am still saying, Vote no to legalize cannabis or else!
Stop this cancer before it spreads.

Bud Green Sr. · 07-27-2017, 06:43 PM

The legalization that we are seeing happening these days in the U.S. is absolutely nothing like what us old heads discussed 45 years ago when we talked about the future..

~star~crash~ · 07-27-2017, 06:53 PM

seems it's like paying off the authorities for immunity

Douglas.Curtis · 07-27-2017, 06:58 PM

Change is often painful.

Until the general public is educated well enough to fully accept cannabis, expect more problems due to remaining ignorance.

Expecting full freedom without (edit: going through) pain is foolish.

mean mr.mustard · 07-27-2017, 08:26 PM

Too much?

Isn't that like "extra" money?

It's just not a real thing.

Nobody will be suprised when the scorpion does what's in its nature.... No matter how many tax dollars you give it first.

Capt.Ahab · 07-27-2017, 09:17 PM

So Hezekiah Allen isnt just the executive director of the California Growers’ Assn.
He is a mouthpeice for the state.
What is the Grower's Association, who are it's members and who does it really represent?

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trichrider THEORETICAL Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: between CB1 and the singularity. Posts: 7,046	California Has Too Much Weed! California has too much pot, and growers won't be able to export the surplus. (Los Angeles Times) A leader of California’s marijuana industry warned Wednesday that the state’s cannabis growers produce eight times the pot that is consumed in the state so some will face “painful” pressure to reduce crops under new state regulations that will ban exports after Jan. 1. ALSO: Legal marijuana could be a $5-billion boon to California's economy Some marijuana growers will stay in the black market and continue to illegally send cannabis to other states, which is also not allowed under federal law, said Hezekiah Allen, executive director of the California Growers’ Assn. “We are producing too much,” Allen said, adding state-licensed growers “are going to have to scale back. We are on a painful downsizing curve.” He said some marijuana growers may stop, while others just won't apply for state permits. Allen made his comments to the Sacramento Press Club during a panel discussion that also included Joseph Devlin, chief of Cannabis Policy and Enforcement for City of Sacramento, and Lori Ajax, chief of the state’s Bureau of Medical Cannabis Regulation. Devlin said estimates he has heard put California production at five times the state consumption; one consultant in the audience said the number may be 12 times what is consumed in the state. Ajax agreed with Allen that some cannabis cultivators may have to scale back while others may never apply for a state license. “For right now, our goal is to get folks into the regulated market, as many as possible,” Ajax said. But, she added, “There are some people who will never come into the regulated market.” Those people, she said, will eventually face enforcement actions for growing marijuana without a state license. Medical marijuana use was approved by California voters two decades ago. Voters in November approved the legal sale and possession of an ounce of marijuana for recreational use. https://www.latimes.com/politics/ess...htmlstory.html whadya think? __________________ "I'm not always a dick...but when I am, I drink cheap beer".
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St. Phatty Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 2,381	So, if Corn farmers can get paid to not grow Corn ... How about some subsidies for us Cannabis Growers ???
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stoned-trout if it smells like fish Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: bible hill estates Posts: 8,328	Ban exports? Now that's funny. Yeehaw... Can u say fuck the feds??? Cause that's what the guy holding 100 pounds or more will be saying eventually.... enforcement will come from the $$$$ generated by the so called legal growers.. and taxes....it will be worse than ever...mark my words¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...along with growing charges expect tax evasion...also expect a few folks to be made an example of...hate to be them __________________ SML..iff mi spellin and centances suk and yoo don't lyke itt too fukkin bad;/?.....I once was asked what I would say upon getting to the gates of heaven??? m/r is a visitors badge an option??? I would like a few drinks at the bar... YEEHAW....vote for real legalization not sum bullshit...free the weed or kiss my ass...you wont be getting my tax money..
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shaggyballs Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Hold your hand up...right about there! Posts: 1,975	I said it before and I am still saying, Vote no to legalize cannabis or else! Stop this cancer before it spreads. __________________ Vote no to legalize cannabis or else! HydroBuddy Nute calculator Ins and outs of Pythium OVERGROW FAQ SEEDPAC Politically Active Cannabis Fighting for Michigan's Medical Marihuana Patients and Caregivers rights I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
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Bud Green Sr. I dig dirt Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: in the hills Posts: 2,634	The legalization that we are seeing happening these days in the U.S. is absolutely nothing like what us old heads discussed 45 years ago when we talked about the future.. __________________ ... Isn't Mother Nature grand !
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~star~crash~ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 8,761	seems it's like paying off the authorities for immunity
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Douglas.Curtis Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Back in Colorado! Yaay! Posts: 2,259	Change is often painful. Until the general public is educated well enough to fully accept cannabis, expect more problems due to remaining ignorance. Expecting full freedom without (edit: going through) pain is foolish.
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mean mr.mustard I Pass Satellites Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Overturning Pebbles and Upending All the Animals Alight Posts: 6,418	Too much? Isn't that like "extra" money? It's just not a real thing. Nobody will be suprised when the scorpion does what's in its nature.... No matter how many tax dollars you give it first. __________________ Life's most persistent and urgent question is, "What are you doing for others?" - Martin Luther King Jr. People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient, then repent. - Bob Dylan Be good and you will be lonely. - Mark Twain How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world. - Anne Frank
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07-27-2017, 09:17 PM	#10
Capt.Ahab Feeding the ducks with a bun. Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,345	So Hezekiah Allen isnt just the executive director of the California Growers’ Assn. He is a mouthpeice for the state. What is the Grower's Association, who are it's members and who does it really represent? __________________ "Mark ye, be forewarned; Ahab's above the common; Ahab's been in colleges, as well as 'mong the cannibals; been used to deeper wonders than the waves; fixed his fiery lance in mightier, stranger foes than whales.'"
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