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Old 07-22-2017, 05:44 PM
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Yes, yes I do. Please explain how it is not a good thing. Every single person can grow 6 plants, and flower 3 at a time. If they don't want to grow, they can allow someone else to grow their plants for them (co-ops). So there should be no problem with cheap and legal access to it. It also means that you don't have to worry about having your door kicked down for a personal grow. It also means that you don't have to worry about loosing your car or freedom if you want to carry some around with you.

Sorry If I sound harsh, I put a lot of time and money into the legalization efforts in CO, but unfortunately left the state before we won the war.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...-co-op-growing

There is just one case, where the flood of black market growers are f'n it up for everyone else in the state that just want to grow, posses, and smoke their own. So no, I don't have any compassion for the greedy fucks taking advantage of what a lot of people worked very hard to accomplish for the people of Colorado.
The problem is that isn't legalization, it's decriminalization/regulation at best. If you can still get felony charges for growing 20 flowering plants in those states.... that is not acceptable. Same with 200 flowering plants.

This plant doesn't need to be treated that way.... it's a plant!
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taxation is theft.

where is the funding for research into medicinal use?

they might just find out there is no need for illegality.
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The problem is that isn't legalization, it's decriminalization/regulation at best. If you can still get felony charges for growing 20 flowering plants in those states.... that is not acceptable. Same with 200 flowering plants.

This plant doesn't need to be treated that way.... it's a plant!
yes, it IS legalization. 6 plants legal does not equal 20, or 200 plants legal. you are referring to legalization as if that means "no regulation". driving 55 in a 55 mph speed zone is legal; driving 75 will get you arrested. that does not mean that driving is illegal, it means driving too damn fast is illegal. almost everything on the planet is regulated in some manner. life goes much easier once you get used to that notion. is it perfect? no, nothing is. but it beats hell out of most alternatives...
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True but speeding in car endangers other people - no one is going to be killed by your garden! The government does not belong in peoples' gardens for any reason.

Alcohol is far more dangerous than cannabis - it's lethal. But most states do not regulate home production of it, unless you sell. There is a federal limit on home-brewing of 200 gallons, that's huge, and I assume it's never enforced. I think they do still chase some bootleg distillers down south who are evading higher liquor taxes.
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but it beats hell out of most alternatives...
ok, I admit legalization is better than a sharp stick in the eye!

The type of legalization I seek is a level playing field for all.
No capital croneyism ect.

Thing could be so so much better if some effort was put forth.
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just who thinks that large for profit grows are ever going to be ignored?
i suppose you can make up convoluted arguments that it's 'wrong'
there's a lot 'wrong' with the world, and that does suck
but what's the proposed solution, no regulation cannabis?
i'm good with that, but really? just what is the color of the sky in that world?
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Here is a good start to finding that world.
Stop jailing people for all victim-less crimes.
Stop trying to protect people from themselves by means of incarceration.


Example:
A man sitting in his home smoking a joint in a legalized state, a cop is called for a neighborhood disturbance.
The cop accidentally goes to the wrong address.
The man hears a knock at the door, puts out the J and answers the door.
Cop sees a weed plant and enters the house and arrests the man sitting on his couch with all the windows closed smoking a J because he had one plant growing in his house.
There are huge 1000 plant grow operations are all over the state at the time but his city has banned home growing.

Now the man is in jail instead of sitting peacefully on his couch.
What was his crime? Who was the victim if there really is a crime being committed.
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