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Old 07-16-2017, 09:39 PM #1
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Molasses before flowering?

Hey friend i have a jug of Humboldt Honey ES "extra strong" leftover from last season.
Its derived from: pure cane molasses, volcanic ash, yucca extract, seaplant extract, quillaja saponaria and montmorillonite i believe its spelt lol.

Used this stuff last year during flower only, was wondering about using it now? We are Probably a month or so out before plants actually start to flower.

So far plants mostly get Earth Juice Grow, Verde Grow from Humboldt Nutrients, silica and liquid karma. they get compost tea about once a week with brix added to it. Thanks
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Molasses is for feeding the micro herd, so use during veg is beneficial. Yes.
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:31 PM #3
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Molasses is for feeding the micro herd, so use during veg is beneficial. Yes.
Thanks. Ive always thought molasses was more of a sweetener and to use during flowering
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Thanks. Ive always thought molasses was more of a sweetener and to use during flowering
Molasses is not a sweetener thats like feeding milk to a cow. Molasses is usually given at the end of bloom as the plants hold onto all the sugars instead of feeding the root zone. So its basically feeding the microorganisms in the root zone.
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Look up TeraGanix EM-1, thats a great way to give molasses to your girls. You can brew your own starting w/ a gal of that, make 20 more. As DC said ^^^ feed to microbes in your soil all season long. Builds strong roots that take up nutes faster.
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:40 AM #6
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Molasses is not a sweetener thats like feeding milk to a cow. Molasses is usually given at the end of bloom as the plants hold onto all the sugars instead of feeding the root zone. So its basically feeding the microorganisms in the root zone.
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so you are saying to use only when plants are flowering?
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Look up TeraGanix EM-1, thats a great way to give molasses to your girls. You can brew your own starting w/ a gal of that, make 20 more. As DC said ^^^ feed to microbes in your soil all season long. Builds strong roots that take up nutes faster.
could i add it to my tea mix? Im using Boogie Brews 2 part mix. Base +Boost. Along with their Boogie Brix
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As long as it is still good there is no reason that it would hurt. It would be beneficial at any time. Especially if the plant isnt exuding enough sugars for the microherd. I wouldnt add it to your brews because there is probably already a carbohydrate source in the brix part. They were saying that they are MOST beneficial too use at the end of flowering because the plant doesnt exude sugars from its roots at this point. Which the microherd depend on. Supplementing this can keep them happy and digesting.
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My fear of using it in veg comes from studies showing that sugars only slow down the absorption of nutes in several test plants (not mj), interfering with osmosis and capillary action, literally clogging the roots.

Molasses IS a sweetener, use it too late and you can taste it. Unless youre growing dank like Douglas C and can't taste that your plant is soaking it up.

Don't care what anyone says. Sugar in late flower is detrimental. Grow some plants with zero terps, use sugar on them the last month: Its in the plants. Budcandy, Sweet, SourDee, Floranectar, Molasses, pancake syrup:all dominant smells of local dispo weed and it leaves a carmalized residue in my vape,and it is the only thing that restricts my breathing.

That added weight, added frost, added stickiness. Its no coincidence. Biggest gimmick in growing. They flush with it for sugar weight and sugar frost!

If your plants and soil are healthy, photosynthesis makes and exudes any sucrose your rootzone can use. The simple sugars are adulterants, straight up. Not saying it can't feed micros, but isn't there something else, like complex carbs instead of simple sugars?

All i know is taste buds/reality trumps salesman science. "Sugars are complex carbs,our carb feed is scientifically formulated to bioactively regulate and trigger specific reactions blah blah..." lol, no.. They've changed the wording on sweetener products so much over the years. They used to flat out admit the plant absorbed the sugars and plant esters in all those stupid flavored carb products. All glorified Brix+. I dont know why people pretend they cant smell it in the plant. It smells just like whatever sugar you used.

They say sucanat is the one that does the least damage to the taste of flowering buds. I like my marijuana to taste sourr, not sweet..
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I run almost exclusively hydro. Sweeteners ruin the real flavors of cannabis and affect how it burns. No thanks. Sweetened cannabis ruins the 'dank factor.'

I'm sure using some in organic soil grows is beneficial. Shouldn't matter whether you're in veg or bloom. You're feeding the microherd, which is assisting the plant with nutrient uptake. Excessive amounts will always negatively affect quality.
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