[Miraculous Meds]

Originally Posted by Trich_Tyson

last half of 2017 was rough.. duked it out with PM.. Shortly thereafter dealt with the thrips.. and about 2 weeks after my last post on this thread I discovered russets.
PM sucks.. thrips are a speed bump but fuck.. russets.
I had been keeping my moms in solos for many months at a time.. on the occasions that i couldn't water within 24 hours they would dry out, lockout, bounce back, i'd get em flushed out, and be back in action. rinse lather repeat.
around thanksgiving i got a lockout that wasn't bouncing back so i decided it was time to pot em up finally. So i did. went upstate for a couple days, and came back to some fucked up plants.
That lockout was not lockout at all. it was russets just beginning to ravage my veg..
I couldn't fight the battle with dozens of veggers and moms.. it was too much foliage
had to cull all the plants I had perfectly timed (FINALLY!) to jump into flower right after the last batch. banana og, xxx og, kosher kush.. these hadn't been backed up.
I had to eliminate more plants, so i sullenly culled several of my recent seed selections.. i had to keep my elites. black triangle, dragons blood, chocolate trip, sour strawberry, dank sinatra.. each unique and special to me, were scrapped. I culled one or two more elites.
I had all of those sativa seed plants, that i had had for about 8 months that fought with me through the PM, thrips, missed the boat due to timing, and were finally going to get their chance.. culled all but 2.

All plants that remained were cut back to 3 or 4 branches, each with a shitty looking node or two a piece.
This shit was devastating.
I went nuclear for 2 weeks.. not fun and not proud times.
but I think we came out ahead. I believe the cycle is broken, and I haven't seen a trace in almost two months. I have tried to keep up with IPM since.
I really need to formulate a strict regimen still.

I had just set up the basement to host my veggers so that i could flower more in the room, and i still have not returned plants to the basement. will need to deep clean down there, and will still be worried.

All of the moms made amazing recoveries, they are now backed up, and I have plants that are almost ready to flip.
They'd be ready, if i were better at potting up in coco. overly wet, and possibly overly charged media at xplant had them locked out for a week. they have drank their way thru it and are starting to rebound.



so that's where we are at..

so here are some still not so glamorous pictures..

happy to be back on the hunt.. Prayer Tower, Animal Face, Sunshine Daydream
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the rebounding sativas, trynna be flipped as soon as they get their color back.
P1, Schrom, Mango Nigerian, Weird Jimmy
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clone game still ain't strong.. only lost 1 out of the 'round 60 cuts i took.. but they were rough coming out of the dome.. mom backups, and plants for the other light.
gunna re run my headbanger selections alongside AJ and original diesel on the right side.
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the moms that made it thru the borg
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Just caught up in here. Nice genetics, and work your doing. I share quite a few similarities in grow style, so ill offer some thoughts about coir n pests.


Tp'ing coir, make sure to not pack the coir, just place the plant in as loosely as possible. water through to run off every time when starting so you can check the starting ec. I buy the top grade stuff that is rinsed to .3ec or less. Even the top of the line stuff dries out during shipping and storage, and still comes out 1.5ec sometimes when I tp. So I always leach till the run off is under 1.4ec. When I top feed, I start by waiting for the pot to dry 50% of its total weight when completely saturated. A couple cycles of this, then its off to multiple waterings a day when you see healthy white root explode out the drainage holes. An alternative you might find useful, especially with all those solo cups, is to fnd. I was quite surprised at how well it worked with coir. Healthy rooted cuts tp'd to a solo cup, flooded twice a day from the start, have dominate root structure in 10 days or so.


Pests n disease, I think your biggest problem may be trading cuts with friends. The best thing you can do is quarantine everything no matter what. Set up a staging area with a small light and air flow, and either put them into a dip, or your ipm, or just observe closely before putting in the main grow. Other than that, just make sure your clothes aren't bringing them in, and your intake.


How do you like the smoke of the choc trip? Flavor n effect?
thanks,
mm

[Dropped Cat]

Good grow.

subbed.

[Trich_Tyson]

Thanks for subbin up playas. and thanks for the great post MM.

On the coco. I buy the expensive bricks of canna. Shipped in they are really only a few more dollars per brick than lesser quality stuff locally. So i do it.
I hadn't been leaching the bricks as most folks run it right out of the bag.
While I think my issue was mostly from the overwatering and suffocating the small root area, I like to know whats going on..
so when i went to transplant those 30 or 40 veggers a few days ago i put in some work. I hydrated the bales and then started leaching. I read the runoff EC, and was surprised to see 1.2 pouring out, with .4 going in. Seemed high.
So i flushed down to .6, then recharged with base (foliage pro to save time) + calmag at about 1.2 EC - thanks Tree.

I squeezed as much moisture out as i could and fluffed it up nice n good.
There was still enough moisture.. couple drips when squished in my hands.

Potted everybody up, and i planted high, so that the rootball was above the new coco level.. my though was to allow o2 to the existing root zone. I felt that there was enough moisture not to water in, so i didn't. A few of the lighter pots were ready for some feed the next day, the rest got water the following day when they got a little drier. The 1 gall pots didn't need water till today.. 3 days in.

I will say, that I didn't catch any signs of droop or lockout.. so it seems to have been a smooth transition.

3 days post-transplant


Trying to learn the coco rules as I go, and transplanting has been the toughest to learn. But I'm starting to get a handle.


I love keeping moms in solos.. its cheap (less media, less nutrient), they don't take up much space, and theres something fun about big plants in little cups.
FND would definitely help me avoid dry ups and lockouts and would probably be easier to maintain than auto dtw.. I don't have any system for runoff, so i'd have to look into the technical aspects and rig something up.

All my pests have 100% arrived on cuts. And with each pest is about a 2 month set back. so I have my doors closed to new cuts till I have a decent quarantine setup, and will nuke everything that comes in.

I don't have a solid IPM rotation/regimen yet, but I have been doing regular neem/silica/soap sprays.

The chocolate trip #8 was one I was really sad to have to cull during my mite infestation. I had to cull most of my selections in favor of my elites, headbangers, and gorilla bubbles.
She finished quick, yielded well, had great appeal, and her nose was burnt rubber and chocolate. She had such a great uplifting high, my head loved it for the all day smoke. She chucked a nanner or two, but not nearly as bad as her sisters.. coulda been user error.
I wish i had more to play with.

Got some RSO in the freezer to winterize. Lots of waxes have dropped out, and I'm gunna filter and evaporate in the next couple days.
I love the stuff, and have been making a ton of gummy bears. I prefer the RSO bears to BHO.

[DJXX]

Animal Face...are they Archive gear..DJXX

[Miraculous Meds]

Originally Posted by Trich_Tyson

Thanks for subbin up playas. and thanks for the great post MM.

On the coco. I buy the expensive bricks of canna. Shipped in they are really only a few more dollars per brick than lesser quality stuff locally. So i do it.
I hadn't been leaching the bricks as most folks run it right out of the bag.
While I think my issue was mostly from the overwatering and suffocating the small root area, I like to know whats going on..
so when i went to transplant those 30 or 40 veggers a few days ago i put in some work. I hydrated the bales and then started leaching. I read the runoff EC, and was surprised to see 1.2 pouring out, with .4 going in. Seemed high.
So i flushed down to .6, then recharged with base (foliage pro to save time) + calmag at about 1.2 EC - thanks Tree.

I squeezed as much moisture out as i could and fluffed it up nice n good.
There was still enough moisture.. couple drips when squished in my hands.

Potted everybody up, and i planted high, so that the rootball was above the new coco level.. my though was to allow o2 to the existing root zone. I felt that there was enough moisture not to water in, so i didn't. A few of the lighter pots were ready for some feed the next day, the rest got water the following day when they got a little drier. The 1 gall pots didn't need water till today.. 3 days in.

I will say, that I didn't catch any signs of droop or lockout.. so it seems to have been a smooth transition.

3 days post-transplant
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Trying to learn the coco rules as I go, and transplanting has been the toughest to learn. But I'm starting to get a handle.


I love keeping moms in solos.. its cheap (less media, less nutrient), they don't take up much space, and theres something fun about big plants in little cups.
FND would definitely help me avoid dry ups and lockouts and would probably be easier to maintain than auto dtw.. I don't have any system for runoff, so i'd have to look into the technical aspects and rig something up.

All my pests have 100% arrived on cuts. And with each pest is about a 2 month set back. so I have my doors closed to new cuts till I have a decent quarantine setup, and will nuke everything that comes in.

I don't have a solid IPM rotation/regimen yet, but I have been doing regular neem/silica/soap sprays.

The chocolate trip #8 was one I was really sad to have to cull during my mite infestation. I had to cull most of my selections in favor of my elites, headbangers, and gorilla bubbles.
She finished quick, yielded well, had great appeal, and her nose was burnt rubber and chocolate. She had such a great uplifting high, my head loved it for the all day smoke. She chucked a nanner or two, but not nearly as bad as her sisters.. coulda been user error.
I wish i had more to play with.

Got some RSO in the freezer to winterize. Lots of waxes have dropped out, and I'm gunna filter and evaporate in the next couple days.
I love the stuff, and have been making a ton of gummy bears. I prefer the RSO bears to BHO.
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What solvent are you using for rso? I wonder why you like the rso better than bho? Are you decarbing both fully? Maybe the different solvent, extracts different cannabinoids? I know a different decarb % is a huge factor on effect. I don't usually winterize either. I wonder how it changes things for edibles.
I understand why people may choose to winterize, so they are smoking more pure cannabinoids, and less plant waxes, but im not sure how that would play out for ingestion. I think theres a chance for those things we strip out for better smoking health, might offer positive benefit for ingestion.


The FnD would make life easier when handling multiple small pots and keeping on watering with them. Plus the set it and forget it approach that the twice a day from start of transplant takes away all the guess work of watering and stretching roots with dry cycles. I haven't experimented with it enough with larger plants yet. I usually switch to top feed when they get big, cause I have everything set up that way already.


Keeping moms in solos is great for space and all. I rotate my mothers consistently. The only thing about a large plant in a solo is, one day of forgetting to water or pump failure, could spell death.

[Treetroit City]

Many ways to skin that cat, while MM like to tp loose as possible dry, I like to hydrate the coco and then give a firm transplant. Reason I do this is because I like a well seated plant. I've tried doing dry and loose only to go water and have the plant fall tip over. Maybe I'm a little rough when watering as I don't use a breaker on my watering can just a steady stream out the nozzle. After tping moist and taped down my plants stay where I put them and I still get roots out the bottom in a few days.
With the canna bricks I've found 2.25 gallons gets them hydrated to where I like the moisture level, not wet but moist. Sometimes when trying 2.0 gallons I've found some dry spots in the middle of the coco. 2.5 gallons=too wet imho.

Like I said, many ways...I'm sure MM has his method perfected while I feel like I have mine perfected. Okay maybe perfected is too strong of a word here but you know...

Anyway, gotta love seeing those healthy whites poppin out the bottom.

[Trich_Tyson]

I’ll swing back later and read the posts.. on break at work right now.
DJ.. the animal face is animal cookies x faceoff.. it’s from seedjunky.. serious vigor

As for the RSO it’s everclear. I️ do a long, warm extact that is filtered after a few hours. The temps and time pull a ton of chlorophyll and wax from the material.
So I️ winterize for two reasons, to improve taste of edibles, but also to increase the concentration of cannabinoids per gram of extract.
It doesn’t require any extra effort really. Just an extra couple days to let it sit before he evap.

I️ prefer the sedative effect (imo) of the RSO. I️ also give a good hunk of the gummies to a friends aunt who suffers from cancer. She has found immense relief.

I️ will blast some bho in the next couple days to do another comparison. But from a holistic standpoint I️ enjoy RSO.

I️ decarb at 250 for 30-40 min.
Still undecided whether I️ prefer to decarb the material or final product

[Trich_Tyson]

Guess it's time to update the phone.. question mark, square.

We're bout 18 days in since i cut the lights.
the stretch has been manageable with daily pinching.
I had always shaved the legs at the flip.. this time I didn't, and i don't think i will going forward.. no need to add stress to an already stressful time for the ladies. I also think it helps with stretch.

The jungle is fierce, and with all this foliage i think it's about time i go ham on the defol like i see a lotta cats do. I def haven't mastered the defol technique with a trellis. With stakes it was easy, i'd leave most fans, and just strip the sucker shoots up to about a foot or so of canopy. With a woven trellis it doesn't seem so easy.

In a few days, as stretch closes, I'll strip the lower, and pluck a good majority of the fans. The second net will go up, tho i wish i had hung the hooks a bit higher.

It's time for a new filter.. mine isn't keeping up, but I can't really change it now.. so I'll be running another scrubber in the room, circulating air, with ona gel all over the house for the next several weeks.

Little over head from last night.
There are 11 plants, essentially 3 wide by 4 deep, minus a back left plant.. the mango nigerian needed the space.
Right up front is P1. With slightly broader leaves to the right and left (in the pic) are some schrom. There is a P1, mostly out of sight in the back left of pic. A plant to the right of P1 is a schrom, and then a P1 on the far right, mostly out of sight, and another schrom in the right corner. In the middle are two weird Jimmys.. in the back leftish, some schrom is popping out, and in the back right, looking like ninja stars, is the bent and woven mango nige.
From here it just looks like a mass of leaf.


more foliage


In this shot you can see the weird jimmy in the mid left.. to the right you got a schrom shoot... up front, with some glare is a piece of P1 i think... and in the back right you get a glimpse of the wide nodage on the mango nige.




The seed plants, to be potted up and flipped ASAP.. they are under the second flower light.. they get pulled out every morning and put into dim light, and replaced in the AM to keep em vegging. In a few days, the chems will take their spot, and they can finish another weekish of veg before they are flipped.

[Trich_Tyson]

Weird Jimmy was born in May last year. She has been interesting all along with beautiful foliage, and super tight nodes. Her stretch seems perfect, and super manageable. She is putting on frost faster than anything else in the light.
This was her at around 15 days.



P1


Schrom

[milo_xxx]

Looooooking goooooood!