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saitama · 08-07-2017, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lapides

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Your plants look amazing! Really dense in there

Lapides · 08-07-2017, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Phychotron

Looks good. Might need a little bit more iron, zinc or sulfur to get the new growth to come in green. Or upping your base nutrients.

Thanks I was trying to figure out what was wrong with them. Out of what you suggested, where would YOU start?

Phychotron · 08-07-2017, 07:04 PM

I have a product called "Liquinox Chelated Iron and Zinc" as a foliar spray. Cost like $10 for a 32 ounce bottle. Helps green them right up without having to add nitrogen.

Phychotron · 08-08-2017, 06:41 PM

Oh, and 90% of nutrient problems are pH related. Check the pH of the nutrients and its runoff. Make sure to water with a bit of runoff to flush the plants waste products away.

I've been using just the white in my lights to veg and it seems like they've been having that problem as well. Turning the red/blue on seems to help.

Lapides · 08-08-2017, 09:44 PM

Are you able to explain to me how you came to this diagnosis of my plants?

My eyes may be getting old or I'm just so egotistical that I am blind to obvious problems, but I see nothing wrong at all with my plants at this point.

Phychotron · 08-09-2017, 12:35 AM

The new growth is a bit too yellow. It shouldn't come in neon yellow and eventually turn green. Usually its iron or pH problems when new growth is yellow. Compare the color of the new growth to the color of the older shade leaves and see that the older shade leaves are so dark they almost have too much nitrogen. Imbalance is usually pH. pH above 8 will make iron completely unavailable.

The tips are starting to show some slight signs of wear, usually that's pH related 'burn' but can also show up from heat or over feeding and buildup of waste (which translates to pH) . The plant takes up nutrients and releases waste products. Those waste products contribute to the ppm of your runoff, but may not necessarily increase it compared to the feed.

Lapides · 08-09-2017, 03:30 AM

Yeah fuck all that, sounds way too complicated. I'll just press my luck and continuing just giving plain water and the occasional compost tea and see how far that gets me.
Thanks for the advice though.

antheis · 08-09-2017, 04:12 AM

man, lap, you crack me up.
Phychotron, using chemical salts would kill his worms, and i know lap would not be down for that.

dank.frank · 08-09-2017, 09:07 AM

Lap. You the man, F.A.M. You're ingenuity and constant adaptation never ceases to amaze me. Reading your threads always makes me nod and smile with appreciation.

----dank.Frank

Lapides · 08-09-2017, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by antheis

man, lap, you crack me up.
Phychotron, using chemical salts would kill his worms, and i know lap would not be down for that.

Well it looks like SOMEONE'S been paying attention

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Originally Posted by dank.frank

Lap. You the man, F.A.M. You're ingenuity and constant adaptation never ceases to amaze me. Reading your threads always makes me nod and smile with appreciation.

----dank.Frank

Thanks brother! I like trying new things, especially if it's gonna make my life easier or my herb better. Glad to see you around again

08-07-2017, 07:04 PM	#33
Phychotron Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 666	I have a product called "Liquinox Chelated Iron and Zinc" as a foliar spray. Cost like $10 for a 32 ounce bottle. Helps green them right up without having to add nitrogen. __________________ Authorized medicinal marijuana patient. Any help given is for educational purposes only. Its your responsibility not to break any applicable laws. My latest Grapegod growlog (fall 2014)
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08-08-2017, 06:41 PM	#34
Phychotron Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 666	Oh, and 90% of nutrient problems are pH related. Check the pH of the nutrients and its runoff. Make sure to water with a bit of runoff to flush the plants waste products away. I've been using just the white in my lights to veg and it seems like they've been having that problem as well. Turning the red/blue on seems to help. __________________ Authorized medicinal marijuana patient. Any help given is for educational purposes only. Its your responsibility not to break any applicable laws. My latest Grapegod growlog (fall 2014)
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08-08-2017, 09:44 PM	#35
Lapides Rosin Junky and Certified Worm Wrangler Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bottle Fed and Unable to Ween Posts: 1,583	Are you able to explain to me how you came to this diagnosis of my plants? My eyes may be getting old or I'm just so egotistical that I am blind to obvious problems, but I see nothing wrong at all with my plants at this point. __________________ Pictures of the Pot I Grow Recycling Dirt Is Ridiculously Easy The LEDs That Are Changing the Game You can't stop me. I'm like a weed. I might disappear for a moment or two, but I will pop up somewhere else and will never stop growing. Nam-myoho-renge-kyo!
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08-09-2017, 12:35 AM	#36
Phychotron Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 666	The new growth is a bit too yellow. It shouldn't come in neon yellow and eventually turn green. Usually its iron or pH problems when new growth is yellow. Compare the color of the new growth to the color of the older shade leaves and see that the older shade leaves are so dark they almost have too much nitrogen. Imbalance is usually pH. pH above 8 will make iron completely unavailable. The tips are starting to show some slight signs of wear, usually that's pH related 'burn' but can also show up from heat or over feeding and buildup of waste (which translates to pH) . The plant takes up nutrients and releases waste products. Those waste products contribute to the ppm of your runoff, but may not necessarily increase it compared to the feed. __________________ Authorized medicinal marijuana patient. Any help given is for educational purposes only. Its your responsibility not to break any applicable laws. My latest Grapegod growlog (fall 2014)
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08-09-2017, 03:30 AM	#37
Lapides Rosin Junky and Certified Worm Wrangler Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bottle Fed and Unable to Ween Posts: 1,583	Yeah fuck all that, sounds way too complicated. I'll just press my luck and continuing just giving plain water and the occasional compost tea and see how far that gets me. Thanks for the advice though. __________________ Pictures of the Pot I Grow Recycling Dirt Is Ridiculously Easy The LEDs That Are Changing the Game You can't stop me. I'm like a weed. I might disappear for a moment or two, but I will pop up somewhere else and will never stop growing. Nam-myoho-renge-kyo!
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08-09-2017, 04:12 AM	#38
antheis Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 446	man, lap, you crack me up. Phychotron, using chemical salts would kill his worms, and i know lap would not be down for that.
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08-09-2017, 09:07 AM	#39
dank.frank ef.yu.se.ka.e.em Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: hiding in plain sight Posts: 10,033	Lap. You the man, F.A.M. You're ingenuity and constant adaptation never ceases to amaze me. Reading your threads always makes me nod and smile with appreciation. ----dank.Frank __________________ https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=258168 Bunch of fake ass neo-capitalists masquerading as counter culture cannabis enthusiasts with their thinly veiled self-justifications catering to the morally ambiguous for the sake of the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR
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