Originally Posted by Skip

Yeah, that whole song makes a lot more sense these days!

So who did you give your phone # to?
That is really scary, if what I think happened did...
If ISPs can not only sell your browsing history, but also your personal data, like phone and home address, then indeed, there is no privacy.

Unfortunately, most ppl cannot choose their ISP, otherwise, any company that would guarantee your privacy, not sell any data to anyone, would suddenly become very popular... That is true competition based on features, instead of everyone kowtowing to the gov't and ad agencies.

We should be paid every time our data is sold at the very least (oh, but they give you FREE access to their websites & services in return, no?)

Skip



We don't give our # out to anyone and are on every do not call list there is.

My guess is from my wife's Facebook page which years ago had some private info... (she was new to social media)

all of which was removed as soon as I saw it but nothing is ever gone as it still exists in the cloud

That is the only place I can think of, unless that new TV of ours has been spying on me.

[aridbud]

Facebook uses a matrix to locate you and have data mining software to compile info. The only way to escape data mining is to ditch these services completely. But for many Internet users, access to Facebook and Google products is part of their daily routines.

[bobert]

Originally Posted by Skip

Remember too, our servers are in the Netherlands, so that affords some protection too, as it's more difficult for the US to dig into our database. Whereas American based social networks have not only put in backdoors for LEO, but have helped develop special interfaces into their data for LEO.

All big American IT companies have been compelled to cooperate with the gov't due to national security issues. And we've seen what has happened, companies have co-opted your data and privacy, and sold it to the Gov't and Ad industry.

If you knew how many billions have been paid to Google, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, etc. to get them to comply with the spy agencies, you'll understand why there are so many backdoors in our software that allow so many hackers to screw us over.

So much for the US gov't protecting us...

Well that gives me some sense of security, being in the US, but not really :/ gotta love big brother!

Originally Posted by aridbud

Facebook uses a matrix to locate you and have data mining software to compile info. The only way to escape data mining is to ditch these services completely. But for many Internet users, access to Facebook and Google products is part of their daily routines.

I've been looking into ways to hide my ip# and disable cookies so nothing can be tracked back to me but it is extremely difficult.

The onion router hides your ip# through a series of ip#'s all around the world. Almost like using a proxy server with multiple ip addresses. I'm not sure if that actually works, I just saw a commercial for it on Viceland. Kinda interesting!

[stoned-trout]

Orfox
..yeehaw

[Skip]

Originally Posted by bobert

I've been looking into ways to hide my ip# and disable cookies so nothing can be tracked back to me but it is extremely difficult.

Disabling cookies helps stop targeted advertising. You can enable cookies on a site-by-site basis, so things still function normally - like not getting signed off ICmag after an hour.

However given the spy capabilities these days, a cookie isn't protection from that, or hackers.

Another piece of advice... I still have an email account at hotmail. Once I stopped forwarding mail to it, my spam dropped 98%. Remember using a major corp's email system means your email addy, IP# (and more!) can be sold to advertisers and the gov't.

Now I use my own email accounts on my own servers and no advertiser can spam me, UNLESS, someone I send mail to isn't so savvy and their address book is open for all to see...

Even worse! I started communicating with a new vendor from Spain, and suddenly, I'm getting inundated with spam emails in Spanish! Next thing I know my news reader is popping up news in Spanish! Then I read one of the articles in Spanish, then I start getting a whole lot more. Now I understand the logic behind this kind of process, but once started, it's nearly impossible to stop...

As far as using proxies to hide IP#s, people who do this are now under more suspicion. But really, I doubt any LEO is gonna go fishing thru IP#s to find someone growing pot. Because LEOs are so localized it doesn't do them any good unless they've already got a lead on someone local and they just want to confirm it.

[bobert]

That is absolutely absurd. People should have a right to privacy, without fearing their information is being sold.

Thank you again for sharing your savvyness, I need to step my game up!!

[Gry]

Skip speaks truth
facebook =express ride to dark side

[aridbud]

Originally Posted by Gry

Skip speaks truth
facebook =express ride to dark side

True.

Facebook was my fault. I regret encouraging my wife to get into social media after a surgery laid her up a couple years back. I regret not monitoring the settings even more.

The defaults are all wrong for novice users like my wife. Everything is up for public view unless the settings are changed to only friends or some shit like that. That is where I believe my privacy breach came from. She is more aware now of what she posts but like I say, the information never goes away.

[St. Phatty]

Originally Posted by Orrie

Facebook was my fault.

the information never goes away.

That's what makes Facebook a Scam -

the ILLUSION that you or I, the account-holders, have control over our account & content.

Well ... then we'd be able to DELETE posts.


Sure would like to see the Winklevoss twins have a second go at Social Media.

Facebook offers Mucho De room for improvement.