[gr8fulguitr]

Any opinions on the best ACE sativa to keep short with training.
I am leaning toward Congo or Golden Tiger or Bangi Haze. I would love to try Zamaldelica or Malawi with Panama in the running.

I have a short growing area and like to train horizontally.

Any Ideas are greatly appreciated.
THX

[PandyFackler]

Hey guy, I haven't tried Bangi or Congo but out of the others you mention in my limited experience, the Zamaldelica fems I tried have the strongest lateral branching that would suit a horizontal grow and they didn't stretch toooo much.

[vcasqui]

I had 2xBangi Haze and 2xMalawi last year.

The BHs didn't like my LST, I guees that was because the stems (or branches) were a little bit thin, but maybe I did something wrong (it was my 2nd grow ever, and my first time LST'ing). The Malawi was much more trainable, with short internodes for a sativa and strong stems, even tho you may need to tutor her; the other malawi was a little bit more ¿stretchy?, with thinner stems but still trainable, even tho I chose not to because of my insecurities.

[Borderliner]

can train with lights uvb can cause dwarfism. I used excessive uvb in last grow and the Fem Malwai did side branching like crazy and loaded up with 127g dry wt in jars now.

[gr8fulguitr]

Originally Posted by PandyFackler

Hey guy, I haven't tried Bangi or Congo but out of the others you mention in my limited experience, the Zamaldelica fems I tried have the strongest lateral branching that would suit a horizontal grow and they didn't stretch toooo much.

Wow! great answers, Thanks you guys...

Before this morining, I had Zamaldelica as my favorite possible, good to know about the branching.

Originally Posted by vcasqui

I had 2xBangi Haze and 2xMalawi last year.

The BHs didn't like my LST, I guees that was because the stems (or branches) were a little bit thin, but maybe I did something wrong (it was my 2nd grow ever, and my first time LST'ing). The Malawi was much more trainable, with short internodes for a sativa and strong stems, even tho you may need to tutor her; the other malawi was a little bit more ¿stretchy?, with thinner stems but still trainable, even tho I chose not to because of my insecurities.

Good to hear about the Malawi

Originally Posted by Borderliner

can train with lights uvb can cause dwarfism. I used excessive uvb in last grow and the Fem Malwai did side branching like crazy and loaded up with 127g dry wt in jars now.

Dwarfism from UVB, that is fantastic info. Never heard that before.
I have always liked the look of Malawi.


Now, I am between Congo and Zameldelica, but am scared of Malawi stretching above my lights. I am thinking of getting a taste of the malawi from the new Malawi x NL Auto. I have mostly grown indica dominant hybrids. My stash could use something different.

I have time to sort this out I need to recondition/reamend my soil. My PCK x KC is just about finished.

Any other Ideas are welcome.

[Borderliner]

Originally Posted by gr8fulguitr

Wow! great answers, Thanks you guys...

Before this morining, I had Zamaldelica as my favorite possible, good to know about the branching.





Good to hear about the Malawi



Dwarfism from UVB, that is fantastic info. Never heard that before.
I have always liked the look of Malawi.


Now, I am between Congo and Zameldelica, but am scared of Malawi stretching above my lights. I am thinking of getting a taste of the malawi from the new Malawi x NL Auto. I have mostly grown indica dominant hybrids. My stash could use something different.

I have time to sort this out I need to recondition/reamend my soil. My PCK x KC is just about finished.

Any other Ideas are welcome.

if you read my malawi zamaldelica thread in sig folks chimed in with light reading and their research into dwarfism. I did not have light meter this run but the uvb lights used can be duplicated. The amare se450 uses repti sun uvb blub and the t5's available.

One strain tangerine dream did not do well with all the uvb so small at finish not worth it again. So finding a strain that responds well, yield still worth it, and with Fem Malawi plan to repeat this grow going with same lights as this grow.

[Borderliner]

if you do go excess uvb just fyi I veg'd that malawi 3 months it was 20 something in at flip. that's with uvb since start of veg. Starting in uvb in veg they say develops uvb receptors in young plants.

[gr8fulguitr]

brilliant. I have looked into reptile lights as supplememntal. I am currently running 4 CREE Cobs.
I will check out your journal. THX!!

[Borderliner]

your welcome

[Dropped Cat]

I grow the Zamaldelica and like it very much.

Flowering from cuttings seem to allow better canopy/plant height.

Here's one I flowered for the Yogurt Cup Challenge a few years ago:



She grew to 13", and dry yield was just under 4g.