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Old 01-04-2018, 10:10 PM #11
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Good topic luva,

one im familiar with also ,
prevention as someone said is best ,
airflow etc ,

also dnt let any caterpillars chew them in flower , that will cause mold for sure ,
i spray with spinosad to avoid that , only takes 2 to 3 applications at most ,

and of course , select the best strain for your area ,

the most resistant variety i found to grow in the tropics so far was mango haze ,
bloody champion , and good pot too ,

im finding diesel does well too ,
just the way the flowers are ,
and the kind of resin ,, it doesnt get wet inside the buds much ,
and doesnt tend to rot ...

keep em as healthy and as happy as u can and they will resist problems ...
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hopefully wasnt a large amount worse ive thrown away was a ounce
i had to bubble 22 lbs of stuff that had mold issues ,
most likely threw away as much at the same time ,
if not more ,
that was not able to be saved ,

fairly sure that was the year i started getting serious about mold prevention .lol ..
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Old 01-05-2018, 05:32 AM #13
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Use NLD varieties from the tropics or equator they have strong natural resistance or they would not be used long in humid areas.
WLD coming from Afghanistan have very little resistance, they did not need it.
Besides using a proper variety for your area the terpene profile also seem to matter, some terpenes help with resistance some seem to increase susceptibility.
Trial and error is they way to find out in your area.
I have grown Haze in my greenhouse surrounded by plants grown from imported seed from afghanistan, literally every afghan was affected while the Haze right next to them had zero problems.
This is one of the problems with Poly-Multi-Hybrids that have WLD lines in them.
Find a NLD that has no problems in your area.
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Old 01-05-2018, 06:05 AM #15
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Caterpillar shit is also a common source of where mold starts.
An easy way to get all the turds off the plants is to tell employees that when the caterpillars eat the flowers the shit has as high THC levels as the best Hash, LOL....
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Good topic luva,

one im familiar with also ,
prevention as someone said is best ,
airflow etc ,

also dnt let any caterpillars chew them in flower , that will cause mold for sure ,
i spray with spinosad to avoid that , only takes 2 to 3 applications at most ,

and of course , select the best strain for your area ,

the most resistant variety i found to grow in the tropics so far was mango haze ,
bloody champion , and good pot too ,

im finding diesel does well too ,
just the way the flowers are ,
and the kind of resin ,, it doesnt get wet inside the buds much ,
and doesnt tend to rot ...

keep em as healthy and as happy as u can and they will resist problems ...
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Caterpillar shit is also a common source of where mold starts.
An easy way to get all the turds off the plants is to tell employees that when the caterpillars eat the flowers the shit has as high THC levels as the best Hash, LOL....
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I am always very careful with mold, of course there are mold that I might not be able to see under my digital magnifying toy, but anyway, as soon as I see any botrytis I am not greedy, I do not try to salvage the clean part of the flowers, they go in the trash.

Speaking of bug shit, I have been using predatory mites, and since I have been growing perpetually and have had pests for years, I use more than you average grower.

I am starting to worry about insect poop, I used to think I prefer to smoke insect poop (they eat plant matter...) over any type of pesticides...

However, I have been looking into it quite a bit more recently and mites poop can be potent allergens, ... is there something to worry about here Sam, can someone use too many hypoapsis miles, cucumeris, fallacis, persimillis?

Am I comprimising my own health and the health of my patients?

I am so lost, the more I know the more I feel like a shitty grower. I used to pride myself that none of my patients have ever inhaled any type of chemicals only to start paranoiing that insect shit might even be worst!?

SAM PLEASE share your thoughts. What about making water hash with material that has been more infested by pests/beneficial insects , does the water rinse away the poopy allergens?

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this is the last time i try and grow this time of year...mould is unstoppable where i grow...just need to be organised and have enough stash to get me through to june for my first harvest and aiming to get my last in by Oct and actually have a 'pot'holiday for a change...

i too chuck a heap away...not 22lb...but enough to make most grown men cry...

best strain i found is female seeds Pure AK...finishes early and whilst the breeder does not recommend outdoors it always gets mould last compared to every other strain i have had...i generally get 2 - 3 weeks more from PA...

i currently have a some early picked plants that i will turn into oil...
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Old 01-05-2018, 07:13 AM #18
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Do you find the predatory mite shit in the flowers or just on the leaves? With dry sift they will be separated, the poop will not be collected with the resin heads because it is to big or to small, or is pushed through the screen.
I would rather smoke a little poop then pesticides, that is for sure.
If it causes allergenic reactions in a smoker then it is important to them at least. I do not know if this has ever happened. Maybe it needs to be studied by creating crops covered in poop from our favorite predators and having them smoke with careful testing of the subjects before and after.
I am not worried about poop that has never been shown to cause a problem vs poisons that are known to be a problem for humans.
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I am always very careful with mold, of course there are mold that I might not be able to see under my digital magnifying toy, but anyway, as soon as I see any botrytis I am not greedy, I do not try to salvage the clean part of the flowers, they go in the trash.

Speaking of bug shit, I have been using predatory mites, and since I have been growing perpetually and have had pests for years, I use more than you average grower.

I am starting to worry about insect poop, I used to think I prefer to smoke insect poop (they eat plant matter...) over any type of pesticides...

However, I have been looking into it quite a bit more recently and mites poop can be potent allergens, ... is there something to worry about here Sam, can someone use too many hypoapsis miles, cucumeris, fallacis, persimillis?

Am I comprimising my own health and the health of my patients?

I am so lost, the more I know the more I feel like a shitty grower. I used to pride myself that none of my patients have ever inhaled any type of chemicals only to start paranoiing that insect shit might even be worst!?

SAM PLEASE share your thoughts. What about making water hash with material that has been more infested by pests/beneficial insects , does the water rinse away the poopy allergens?

THANKS
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Old 01-05-2018, 07:15 AM #19
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Do you grow any NLD tropical or equatorial varieties? I suggest you can find one that works for you.
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this is the last time i try and grow this time of year...mould is unstoppable where i grow...just need to be organised and have enough stash to get me through to june for my first harvest and aiming to get my last in by Oct and actually have a 'pot'holiday for a change...

i too chuck a heap away...not 22lb...but enough to make most grown men cry...

best strain i found is female seeds Pure AK...finishes early and whilst the breeder does not recommend outdoors it always gets mould last compared to every other strain i have had...i generally get 2 - 3 weeks more from PA...

i currently have a some early picked plants that i will turn into oil...
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yep sams on it there ,
long season plants for you ozzie , hahaha ,
sort that stash man ...

hard to mess with the seasons too much ,
if your in a similar situ to me ,

have two sorts of seed ,
one that u can use in that dry season for a bit of stash ,
that can get you through till u put those longer season girls in ,
as sam said ,
better make them narrow leaf leaning at least for the mold resistance ,
steer clear of nl and skunk types ,
seems a lot of pretty good choices around these days for that long season ...
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