[Silver Bullet]

dont worry about it, its unconstitutional for them to use flir without a warrant..... just make sure you take care of the odor....... and of course tell no one.

yeh, its easier to just not worry about shit like that..
i mean, unless youre running a giant Op, I doubt they'd see anything credible with < than a few 1000watts, even then.. Ive seen them whirl our neighborhood for years, I DO know theyre the right choppers..and they fly right over/around the vicinity of me and my best friends house(1600k), along with my little 400w grow.. its no sweat

I dont remember in the 1.5 yrs Ive lived here, (or the 5yrs in the other county) anyone being busted in town by anything other than a rat/informant being involved

F.L.I.R. simply displays different temperatures via different shades and colors on a screen. If it's at 100 yards or 1,000 yards, it will still give similar imagery.

It never hurts to be heat-signature conscious, as it's one less thing to worry about. insulation and venting are the keys, and shouldn't 'break the bank' in application.

'Probable cause' and 'reasonable suspicion' are typically attained by adding (this piece of info) to (that piece of info), and so on, until some magistrate or judge thinks that the sum total of info equates to something significant.

The fewer loose ends hanging out, the less there is to worry about.

moose eater

[Silver Bullet]

Moose has touched on alot and is correct. It all depends on alot of things. One being their funding and the amount they spent on their FLIR unit. These units aren't cheap, even the cheap ones. It all depends on what mode they are using, IE "White Hot or Dark Hot, or just plain IR" I've started a thread here and won't go into any details, but just do what moose has stated and you should be fine with a normal setup. Anything large is asking for problems. I get flown over almost every night. Before anyone jumps in and start sling shit. I've got a bunch of old friends that are state police, and local police. They do a nasty trick called "Fishing". Whenever they are flying to a call. The co pilot flips the unit on and hopes to key on a signal. If something keys while in route to call. They mark the location and kick is down to detective. A detective will scout out the location and see if he or she can find enough info to ask a judge for a warrant. Once they find enough info for a warrant. It's over for that person. I know this is illegal, but they aren't playing fair. They do what they want to get a bust and make them look good in their department. That's just how it is. I hope this helps, and i know for a "FACT" they do this in the southern states. I'll be doing a full and professional thread on FLIR and how to protect yourself from these units. I've got a source that is going to buy me a brand new unit and run a few test on some large grows and show people what the signal looks like and how to block them. Good luck and stay safe. You don't want to get busted like me and be in jail or on probation like me. NO, i did not get popped by FLIR.
Take care,
BG

[pmorris]

Foylon Fabric is good but is really $$$

[spacecabbage]

Moose eaters right ! Be concious and tell no one! Hey all Im new here but getting the hang of things . I went over kill on ventalation . 650 cfm for 400 hps 300 cfm taking out that dank smell and 250 cfm bringing in the ac. in a 3+3 space

Originally Posted by spacecabbage

Moose eaters right ! Be concious and tell no one! Hey all Im new here but getting the hang of things . I went over kill on ventalation . 650 cfm for 400 hps 300 cfm taking out that dank smell and 250 cfm bringing in the ac. in a 3+3 space

That's a great job on the venting. Now, you want to block the wave length, but if your grow isn't that large. You should be good as long as your not running light at night. Wave length stick out at night. Daytime is easier to camo.
Take care,
BG

In an average, decently-insulated house, a 400 watt lamp shouldn't produce enough heat to be a problem at all. Even twice that much shouldn't be too much concern, depending on the area it's confined to, and that area's proximity to an exterior wall or ceiling..

In a basement with 8' (+/-) earth back-fill around the outside of the walls of the area in question, as well as underneath the slab, to help cool the area, the potential heat signature is that much less of an issue.

But if you notice that you have heat build-up, sufficient to the point that one room is markedly warmer than another, and your exterior wall insulation is either sub-standard or non-existent (as it is in some climates), then you're playing a form of roulette.

If you're ventilating anyway, to deal with odor (presumably you -are-, or it's yet another roll of the dice), then there's little reason not to have that flow of air be involved in a cooling loop of some sort.

One of the most common crimes on the part of police officers is re-writing arrest reports to suit what the court and policies and procedures manuals require, and another is creative explanations for sources of suspicion.

Why take any more chance than you need to?

BTW, GoldDustWomen, I'm twice removed from some folks who fly FLIR over the foot paths in Hawaii, looking for the heat signatures from warm bodies that might be tending outdoor plants.

moose eater