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littlegrow · 03-17-2017, 08:01 PM

i have been checking this Flir out and have realised a police Flir camera can't see though glass which is great now im going to be growing in an insulated outside shed.

now what if i were to put up a greenhouse frame a bit bigger than my current shed over it and line the frame with glass exactly like a green house and if anyone asked i could just be storing it but on a police Flir camera they would never notice it am i right or just over thinking it ?

amanda88 · 03-17-2017, 08:55 PM

true these cameras can't see thru glass but they can see the heat coming thru the glass ..lol

littlegrow · 03-17-2017, 09:17 PM

ahhh i see im just trying best to to insulate my 6x8 shed the only problem i have is a Flir camera can a helicopter detect a 600w hps in an insulated shed if the extraction is into the floor under the shed ?

Easy7 · 03-17-2017, 09:35 PM

Not a lot of reasons for a shed to emit heat. Perhaps a large out building may have a wood burning stove for a workshop. Anything substantial will be at the local inspectors office.

The thing about flir is they don't know what's going on inside. Yes it's unusual for an attic to be the warmest part of a house. But a basement could be finished as a living room with excellent heat source. A bedroom could be sealed off and the only room heated. They don't know anything other than a hotspot. Also growing and grow equipment is not illegal. America's favorite cash crop is illegal.

Sadly most judges will write a warrant at simply suggestion.

HuffnPufferfish · 05-16-2017, 07:45 PM

you forgot bout the exhaust..

Dropped Cat · 05-17-2017, 03:47 AM

Lots of data and video available on the FLIR.

It may freak you out a little how easy to pinpoint a lazy grow is.

Masking a signature as well as misdirection work well.

600w may not be big enough to take a second look,
unless you sell from your house or other such foolishness.

troutman · 05-17-2017, 04:06 AM

Most people get caught because of rats and not flir usage.

As long as you have no light leaks you should be safe.

If you run your light(s) in the day. Flir is useless.

HuffnPufferfish · 05-20-2017, 06:25 PM

flir doesnt mean shit to light, its about concentration of heat, if youre pumping out hot air into the outside people see that shit, judge will give warrants are you ass will be checked out
an 600 watt exhausting straight into the outside is a big red dot, literally.

getpulse.co · 10-24-2017, 07:55 AM

We have done some testing with FLIR thermal cameras. The bottom line is that a FLIR will not pick up anything if there is not direct heat on whatever you are inspecting.

For example, we had a grow space which had a large window exposed to an open/public street. The FLIR was not able to detect anything because we insulated in the interior window frame with R-52 fiberglass insulation and then sealed off the window cavity with a cut to fit piece of plywood. Not only did this create a "flush" wall, but it isolated the exterior window from the interior grow environment conditions.

Bottom line is, insulate and seal everything up well. What the thermal cameras WILL pick up is your hot air exhaust so keep that in mind. If you are paranoid, I've HEARD of people ordering FLIR's on Amazon and then returning then.

Stay safe

getpulse.co · 10-24-2017, 10:50 AM

Ok well I had never had the chance to play with the FLIR so this was a good excuse. We have a 4x4 test tent and I turned off all the lights to show you. In the pics below you can clearly see the hot zone around the tent, this is because the tent material itself is heating up. Insulate insulate insulate!

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littlegrow Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: hidden away Posts: 271	Police Flir and Glass i have been checking this Flir out and have realised a police Flir camera can't see though glass which is great now im going to be growing in an insulated outside shed. now what if i were to put up a greenhouse frame a bit bigger than my current shed over it and line the frame with glass exactly like a green house and if anyone asked i could just be storing it but on a police Flir camera they would never notice it am i right or just over thinking it ?
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amanda88 Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: uk Posts: 719	true these cameras can't see thru glass but they can see the heat coming thru the glass ..lol __________________ Omnes hortulani melius quam alia hortulani all gardeners know better than other gardeners
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littlegrow Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: hidden away Posts: 271	ahhh i see im just trying best to to insulate my 6x8 shed the only problem i have is a Flir camera can a helicopter detect a 600w hps in an insulated shed if the extraction is into the floor under the shed ?
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03-17-2017, 09:35 PM	#4
Easy7 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,575	Not a lot of reasons for a shed to emit heat. Perhaps a large out building may have a wood burning stove for a workshop. Anything substantial will be at the local inspectors office. The thing about flir is they don't know what's going on inside. Yes it's unusual for an attic to be the warmest part of a house. But a basement could be finished as a living room with excellent heat source. A bedroom could be sealed off and the only room heated. They don't know anything other than a hotspot. Also growing and grow equipment is not illegal. America's favorite cash crop is illegal. Sadly most judges will write a warrant at simply suggestion. __________________ This is username Easy7, NOT username EasyGoing. They say geniuses pick green
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05-16-2017, 07:45 PM	#5
HuffnPufferfish Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: under the sea Posts: 756	you forgot bout the exhaust.. __________________ watching grass grow
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05-17-2017, 03:47 AM	#6
Dropped Cat Six Gummi Bears and Some Scotch Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 2,615	Lots of data and video available on the FLIR. It may freak you out a little how easy to pinpoint a lazy grow is. Masking a signature as well as misdirection work well. 600w may not be big enough to take a second look, unless you sell from your house or other such foolishness. __________________ "So we're just done with phrasing, right, that's not a thing anymore?."
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05-17-2017, 04:06 AM	#7
troutman Seed Whore Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: In the Fridge Posts: 1,603	Most people get caught because of rats and not flir usage. As long as you have no light leaks you should be safe. If you run your light(s) in the day. Flir is useless. __________________ I just died.
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05-20-2017, 06:25 PM	#8
HuffnPufferfish Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: under the sea Posts: 756	flir doesnt mean shit to light, its about concentration of heat, if youre pumping out hot air into the outside people see that shit, judge will give warrants are you ass will be checked out an 600 watt exhausting straight into the outside is a big red dot, literally. __________________ watching grass grow
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10-24-2017, 07:55 AM	#9
getpulse.co Newbie Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 20	We have done some testing with FLIR thermal cameras. The bottom line is that a FLIR will not pick up anything if there is not direct heat on whatever you are inspecting. For example, we had a grow space which had a large window exposed to an open/public street. The FLIR was not able to detect anything because we insulated in the interior window frame with R-52 fiberglass insulation and then sealed off the window cavity with a cut to fit piece of plywood. Not only did this create a "flush" wall, but it isolated the exterior window from the interior grow environment conditions. Bottom line is, insulate and seal everything up well. What the thermal cameras WILL pick up is your hot air exhaust so keep that in mind. If you are paranoid, I've HEARD of people ordering FLIR's on Amazon and then returning then. Stay safe
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10-24-2017, 10:50 AM	#10
getpulse.co Newbie Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 20	Ok well I had never had the chance to play with the FLIR so this was a good excuse. We have a 4x4 test tent and I turned off all the lights to show you. In the pics below you can clearly see the hot zone around the tent, this is because the tent material itself is heating up. Insulate insulate insulate!
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