[Noonin NorCal]

Originally Posted by theJointedOne

no, see there is no reason to start seeds inside if you have a simple hoop house or greenhouse.

Start seeds outside, and dont deal with the hassle of supplemental lighting

It all depends on night/early morning temps and how much sun your g.h. actually gets

[CrushnYuba]

My seeds are in my heated greenhouse right now because they are tiny. But I'll move them to an unheated frame soon. Last year I had them in an unheated unlit cold frame separate from the clones for most of their lives.
I pop them in tree starting cylinders. Then I plant them directly into a full bag of soil with the top cut off. Sometimes I do 1.5 cuft bags, sometimes 3 cu ft. No transplanting in preveg.

[trippn]

Originally Posted by theJointedOne

no, see there is no reason to start seeds inside if you have a simple hoop house or greenhouse.

Start seeds outside, and dont deal with the hassle of supplemental lighting

except for 4 out of 10 of my watermelon zkittlez getting munched by bugs in my greenhouse >.>

[CrushnYuba]

what about getting those early plantings with seeds without supplemental lighting? how early is 2 early to pop seeds and still put them out may 1st without light strings.
was talking to a friend the other day. he pops seeds in feb. he never uses lighting at all. he puts them in an unheated unlit greenhouse with no endwalls in feb! he puts them in the ground in late April. he says as long as you never use supplemental lighting, they don't flower early. i guess it's because days get longer. he also says his plants grow slow. as i imagine they would freezing their balls off all the time. i wonder if their slow growth means slow to reach sexual maturity.
my greenhouse is heated and lit. i could probably make a dark corner for them but my growth will be significantly faster them my friend. do y'all think if i pop now without sup light the day getting longer will be enough to keep plants from flowering for a may 1st planting?

[~star~crash~]

i know u guys are west coasters , i grow east coast ...last season i did an experiment and put out seeds early as i could after last frost for an outdoor strike ... i also had starts indoors under 24/7 to compare for the season ...the ones that were out for 100% did fine , but yes they grew very slow...funny thing is that by the end of the season they were among the best plants ...the only difference was the initial rates of development

[CrushnYuba]

I'm wondering more about early flowering. If a seedling is kept in an unlit but heated gh started in feb, will it flower in April or May without sup lighting.
Are the lengthening days enough to keep in veg?

[~star~crash~]

how short are you days ? ur thinking they will grow a bit confused from being start so early with no supplemental lighting ???

[theJointedOne]

Originally Posted by CrushnYuba

I'm wondering more about early flowering. If a seedling is kept in an unlit but heated gh started in feb, will it flower in April or May without sup lighting.
Are the lengthening days enough to keep in veg?

no they will not flower early

[CrushnYuba]

Originally Posted by theJointedOne

no they will not flower early

Are you 100% sure? I have always been to scared to test. And most people usually say to treat old seedlings as clones. I know they are still less likely to flower then a clone but how much so. If started feb 1st they are 3 months old by may 1st. 3.5 months old by May 14.

[caliprop215]

I just planted my seeds they're sprouting right now. I'm going to let him grow for one month under 400 watt mh in 3 gallon pots.then presexing them for 5 Days 12 12 then back to 18 6. Pluck all the males at beginning of april. Plant all females in ground around 2 ft tall may 1st.under 400 watt sup lighting above the 30x30 area.. hoping for 3 plus each one....hopeing lol.....that my plan for this year....we shall see how it works