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Old 03-04-2017, 10:36 AM #1
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A Framework for the Legalization and Regulation of Cannabis in Canada

Here's a link to health Canada' s site. The Final Report of the Task Force on Cannabis Legalization and Regulation. https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/task-f..._task_force_16
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Considerations

It is currently legal to grow and produce tobacco for personal use in Canada (up to 15 kg of tobacco or cigars), just as it is legal to produce wine or beer at a residence for personal use. Wine-making, home brewing of beer and curing personally grown tobacco is undertaken primarily by advocates and connoisseurs in the post-Prohibition era. It is assumed that, over time, personally cultivated cannabis will follow the same course.

The experiences of Colorado and Washington with respect to the potential diversion of personally cultivated cannabis must be taken in context. In the United States, cannabis for non-medical purposes is illegal federally and in all but nine U.S. jurisdictions (eight states and Washington, D.C.). This contributes to demand from states where cannabis remains illegal. By enabling legal access to cannabis on a national level in Canada, it is anticipated that the demand for illicitly produced cannabis will diminish over time.

Small-scale cultivation of cannabis in the home is not without risks. Of particular concern is the exposure of children to cannabis. As a result, safeguards are important. Measures that have been adopted in other jurisdictions include lockable spaces for indoor production, securely fenced areas for outdoor production and ensuring plants are not visible from the street or from adjacent dwellings.

With a clear understanding of the risks associated with personal cultivation, the following safeguards would create a reasonable framework for enabling small-scale cultivation of cannabis for personal use:

Set clear limits on the scale of cultivation permitted (maximum of four plants per residence), with a maximum height limit (100 cm);
Prohibit unlicensed sale (although some degree of sharing among friends and relatives is inevitable);
Prohibit the manufacture of concentrates in homes using volatile solvents and chemicals;
Establish guidelines to ensure cultivation is in spaces not visible or accessible to children;
Encourage local authorities to establish their own oversight and approval frameworks, such as requiring individuals to notify local authorities if they are undertaking personal cultivation;
Regulate the market to enable a legal source for starting materials (e.g., seeds, seedlings, plant cuttings).
Advice to Ministers

The Task Force recommends allowing personal cultivation of cannabis for non-medical purposes with the following conditions:

A limit of four plants per residence
A maximum height limit of 100 cm on the plants
A prohibition on dangerous manufacturing processes
Reasonable security measures to prevent theft and youth access
Oversight and approval by local authorities
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They should do a light limit, max 1000 watt for flowering per household of up to 4 adults say as an example, 5 cycles say at a kilo per lamp (just being conservative) 5 kilos per year would satisfy most recreational users and keep a lot of guess work of how to enforce people growing more than 4 plants above 1 metre (impossible). Outdoors you should be allow to grow up to 15-20 plants per adult for recreational, although to be honest I think any person should be allowed to grow as much as they want, but if you want to regulate it to some extent 15 plants should allow for a decent variety of flowers for the regular recreational user in my opinion.
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For most 4 plants inside isn't enough but some guys are able to train plants in a way to have 1-2 plants per 1000 w and get maximum yields. Set up a basement full of gavita 1000w de pro with a master controller and start training ! They give you a limit and some find crafty ways to get around and still be within limits.
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Old 03-06-2017, 01:03 AM #5
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They want the transition to be successful, they've been studying our market for a long time and observing the US so they kind of figured out what works and what doesn't. They basically write in the linked document that our methods of cultivation and distribution is very elaborate and advanced, that most homegrowers aren't violent and associated with any criminal gangs and that weed deals and with a handshake between producer and distributor and a whole lot of stoners getting their supply.
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:57 AM #6
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They should do a light limit, max 1000 watt for flowering per household of up to 4 adults say as an example, 5 cycles say at a kilo per lamp (just being conservative) 5 kilos per year would satisfy most recreational users and keep a lot of guess work of how to enforce people growing more than 4 plants above 1 metre (impossible). Outdoors you should be allow to grow up to 15-20 plants per adult for recreational, although to be honest I think any person should be allowed to grow as much as they want, but if you want to regulate it to some extent 15 plants should allow for a decent variety of flowers for the regular recreational user in my opinion.
I never thought of a light limit. Max watts per grow space or total number of lights? I don't know how that would work.

I would like to see a limits placed on total grow space or just about any other way to limit it rather than plant count or even more ridiculous a height limit. If legal growers want to grow out a hundred, sea of green style or 5 large plants that are 6-8 ft tall. That should be up to them to decide.
Another detail that needs clarification is do all plants, seedlings, clones count toward the total plant limit or just the ones flowering?
Would be nice to start a hundred seeds and pick the best to flower out.

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Old 03-06-2017, 11:40 AM #7
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If you said say 1000 watt limit per flowering or whatever or 600 per adult then 250-400 for veg for a total of 1400-1600 watts per household of grow light per cannabis grow it would be easier for them to regulate if they are smart about it. Imagine if 500000 people want to do a home grow which I think would be a fair estimate, how hard would it be for them to check for compliance? You have a grow that is putting out smell or whatever and then they come to check of you have two ballasts, watt limit is ok, please put in your carbon scrubber it is traveling to your neighbour end of story. Like previously stated what if I decided 4 plants 10 1000 watt lamps with a huge scrog? I could pump out two crops a year or more depending on how much work I want to put in and easily pump out 20 kilos a year while others could be sitting there pumping out say 2 kilos with those tiny plants, it doesn't seem to make it an even playing field if you think about it and mitigates nothing for fire risks.
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a height limit is no limit at all. a SCROG properly done can get you an eight foot tall plant in a 4 foot space. flatten that bitch out & watch her go...
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a height limit is no limit at all. a SCROG properly done can get you an eight foot tall plant in a 4 foot space. flatten that bitch out & watch her go...
Oh I agree it will not stop people from growing big plants.

It is still ridiculous. Do they intend to stop by and trim off everything over 100 cm or fine people with tall plant's, maybe pull your permit if your plants are 130 cm. I try and see both sides of the discussion, but this has me stumped as to the thinking behind height limits.

Let's hope this recommendation never makes it to law.

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