[shaggyballs]

Smart Meter Spying Admitted

https://takebackyourpower.net/smart-...ally-admitted/

May 15, 2014

Arizona Corporation Commission (ACC)
Docket Control Center
1200 West Washington Street
Phoenix, Arizona 85007

Re: Docket # E-01345A-14-0113

Ladies and Gentlemen;

Here is breaking news. SmartGridNews has just come out of the closet and admitted what I and others have been saying all long: “Smart” meters are surveillance devices.

APS and utilities nationwide have been denying the surveillance capability of “smart” meters but here is one of the foremost “smart” meter cheerleaders in the world finally admitting the truth.

SmartGridNews calls such “smart” grid industry names as Telvent, Silver Spring Networks and Lockheed Martin its “major sponsors”. So of course the news story attempts to put a positive spin on the surveillance, hyping such nonsense as an “over 4% conservation [of energy] after just a few months”.

Wow, that means I might save four whole dollars and change on a one hundred dollar electrical bill. Where do I sign up to be spied on?

Enclosed is the SmartGridNews article, Now utilities can tell customers how much energy each appliance uses (just from the smart meter data).

Sincerely,
Warren Woodward

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Start this one at 7 min. into the video, most info is finished at 14 min.
Then pick back up at 20 min. for more details on her arrest.

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"Smart" Meters & Surveillance: What Are Your Rights Worth?
CIA Chief Petraeus: We'll Spy on You Through Your Dishwasher

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Former Vancouver Police Department Fraud Investigator, Len Miller, and his take on BC Hydro's forced smart metering agenda.
Fire one up for this one... it is 9 min long.
He states it is undeniably a criminal offense!

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Smart meters used to spy on private homes.(NBC news)
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/45946984/n.../#.WLnRB6htmM8

[armedoldhippy]

you are in shock? no, i am not surprised. you are ALWAYS indignant/shocked/outraged over something ... you do not work for Breitbart do you?

[shaggyballs]

Originally Posted by armedoldhippy

you are in shock? no, i am not surprised. you are ALWAYS indignant/shocked/outraged over something ... you do not work for Breitbart do you?

Did not ever hear of Breitbart, so I had to google it...lol
Breitbart News has published a number of falsehoods and conspiracy theories, as well as intentionally misleading stories.

That is not the case here, I usually try to back up my statements with facts.
"you are ALWAYS indignant/shocked/outraged"
Can ya quote me on that as I don't usually use those words or feel outraged at all.
Just trying to get the word out.

Glad to see you still scratchin' and fightin' for what you believe you danged ol' shotgun totin' hippy- you!

[brown_thumb]

...

[armedoldhippy]

Originally Posted by shaggyballs

Did not ever hear of Breitbart, so I had to google it...lol
Breitbart News has published a number of falsehoods and conspiracy theories, as well as intentionally misleading stories.

That is not the case here, I usually try to back up my statements with facts.
"you are ALWAYS indignant/shocked/outraged"
Can ya quote me on that as I don't usually use those word or feel outraged at all.
Just trying to get the word out.

Glad to see you still scratchin' and fightin' for what you believe you danged ol' shotgun totin' hippy- you!

just fuckin' with you, Shag. everyone finds their niche in life, i am glad you have found yours. just in case the sky DOES fall, i'm sure i will read about it on here first. keep us informed, bro.

[shaggyballs]

I see there is a lot of fight left in that old dog, and I like it!
I am glad you are such a cool dude hippy, we disagree strongly with each other but we can leave the playground fights out of it.
Besides that you always make me laugh and a guy just can't get enough of that.
Well gotta go, time to check the sky......it may have fallen whilst I was a postin'

Peace and armed ol' hippy stuff to ya'll out in Canna Land.

[St. Phatty]

Originally Posted by shaggyballs

Did not ever hear of Breitbart, so I had to google it...lol
Breitbart News has published a number of falsehoods and conspiracy theories, as well as intentionally misleading stories.

It was interesting to see how Breitbart started about 10 years ago.

Basically with a big push from Drudge. Seemed like up to 1/5 of Drudge links were going to Breitbart for a while.


Since Drudge is gay, I couldn't help but wonder if one of the Breitbart founders was simply Drudge's boyfriend.

[igrowone]

Originally Posted by St. Phatty

...
Since Drudge is gay, I couldn't help but wonder if one of the Breitbart founders was simply Drudge's boyfriend.

you really do learn something new every day
not that there's anything wrong with it

[armedoldhippy]

Originally Posted by St. Phatty

Since Drudge is gay, I couldn't help but wonder if one of the Breitbart founders was simply Drudge's boyfriend.

Milo?

[VonBudí]

saw this and thought of yourself shaggy, on the front page but worth noting the telegraph isnt the most reputable, might be worth digging up the study.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...h-study-finds/

Smart energy meters giving readings up to six times too high, study finds


by Katie Morley, consumer affairs editor
6 MARCH 2017 • 6:52PM
Smart meters are giving readings up to six times higher than the energy consumed by households when connected to energy-saving light bulbs, according to scientists.

A study conducted by the University of Twente Enschede in the Netherlands, has found that five different types of smart meters produced readings up to 583pc higher than the actual energy used.

It is the first ever proof that smart meters, which the Government wants in every household by 2020 to improve the accuracy of people's energy bills, are producing readings which are too high.

Scientists declined to name and shame affected smart meters but confirmed that those which give wrong readings in its tests have been sold and installed in the UK.

It means as many as five million UK households in which smart meters are installed, may have potentially received inaccurate readings.

The inaccuracies are being blamed on the meter's design, along with the increasing use of modern energy efficient devices.



So called "green" devices such as energy saving light bulbs, heaters, LED bulbs and dimmers change the shape of electric currents which can result in a distorted reading, it said.

The greatest inaccuracies were seen when dimmers combined with energy saving light bulbs and LED bulbs were connected to the system.

Researchers tested the meters by connecting them to different devices which are found in a typical home.

After a week they compared the amount of energy they put into the system and compared it with the amount of current the meter registered. Afterwards they calculated the differences between the two numbers.

Five out of nine smart meter models tested gave readings which were too high, the study found.

Smart meters are a new kind of gas and electricity meter which digitally sends readings to your energy supplier to ensure more accurate energy bills.

They also come with monitors so customers can better understand their energy usage. Under Government plans which are set to cost £11 billion, every home in Britain will have a smart meter installed by 2020.

Critics have warned that it is unclear whether smart meters will save consumers any money, and could even end up costing them, as they are paying for the roll-out through higher energy bills.

According to a report by First Utility, one of the UK's biggest energy suppliers, UK households face a 42 per cent rise in the amount they pay to support government green energy initiatives, including smart meters.

It comes as a number of SSE customers were wrongly told that they had used thousands of pounds worth of energy. One customer's display showed more than £30,000 for a single day.

The author of the report, Prof Leferink, said: "We've known since 2009 electronic meters can give readings which are too low. But this is the first time we've seen they can be much too high. We were flabbergasted by our results.

"The study was carried out in a laboratory setting. If you looked at ones in homes I don't expect they would be 500 or 600 per cent out. But what we have shown is the reading can clearly deviate a lot from the power customers are actually consuming."

Doug Stewart, chief executive at Green Energy UK, said: "Around 15pc of households in the UK already have smart meters which could be affected by this issue. It is alarming, but it does not necessarily mean people have lost money. Smart meters are essentially a 'second check' as energy suppliers keep a record of energy consumption and if there is a discrepancy, they will know."

A BEIS spokesman insisted that smart meters installed in the UK have to comply with regulations which mandate high standards of accuracy.

He said: “Smart meters are a vital upgrade to Britain’s energy system. The technology will bring an end to estimated billing, and give consumers real-time information about their energy use to enable them to make more efficient energy choices. By 2020 every home and small business will have been offered a smart meter."