[CrushnYuba]

Speed of green: you were saying earlier this was a test and if it worked well you would be doing more projects. If you decide to do another project and want to do top rail, you can do whatever shape you want.
I could help you build the right jig. I got a 20ft wide with around 5ft sidewalls and I think it's a bit under 10 ft at the center. Probably about 8.5 ft.

Queequeg: what swaging tools are you talking about???????? Are they hand swaging tools. I'm super interested. I know someone with a big hydraulic swaging tool but it costs thousands. I have seen cheap flaring tools. I been looking for something to swage emt for a while.

[Speed of green]

I have another spot that has 5 greenhouses but i don't run them year round, i do larger plants full season. they are 20x60 with 4' sidewalls overall height is about 16'

I want to do sea of green style in greenhouses, short veg time (30-60 days ) 25 gallon pots of promix or 5-10 gallon pots of coco. i have a pretty good way to automate the tarps, very similar to your setup.

[queequeg152]

Originally Posted by Speed of green

the major appeal to indoor for me is still control, odor mainly, i have no idea if this is going to be smell proof. LED technology is catching up rapidly, my friend in LA county has an experimental section in his warehouse, in a 10x10 grid he is doing one 50w led per sqft, the led's are mounted on square tubing that has chilled water running through it, I know off this room he is hitting over 1gpw total electricity for the room, with no air conditioning.

I have a 20' hoop bender its for 1-3/8" chain link top rail. the reason i went with this odd shaped pvc house was because i have a height restriction, the hoop with straight 4' walls would have been around 16' tall in the center. this shape of greenhouse gives me 6' walls and a 7-1/2' overall height.

the standard hoop with no straight walls sacrifices a lot of useable space on the sides where the hoop is low, this design gives me a better footprint.


the 20 second prime was from a completely dry system, it primes almost instantly, by the time i plug the pump in and walk 10' to the greenhouse all the sites are almost done hissing.

yea i mean i GET why people want to do it... i just dont understand why outdoors stuff has not just largely pushed it out of the market yet.

i hear what you are saying regarding heights.

[queequeg152]

Originally Posted by CrushnYuba

Queequeg: what swaging tools are you talking about???????? Are they hand swaging tools. I'm super interested. I know someone with a big hydraulic swaging tool but it costs thousands. I have seen cheap flaring tools. I been looking for something to swage emt for a while.

not a hand swaging tool. the thing i saw was a die that you set the pipe into, then use a tinsmith hammer or a hand dimpler with a very narrow face to hammer 4 long grooves into the pipe at 90 degree offsets. this shrinks the pipe diameter just enough to fit inside.

idk if you could ever expand EMT... its just too thin, even the 1-1/2" emt is still barely 1/16".

maby aluminum conduit you could expand, but not the steel imo. shrinking is the only way.

[CrushnYuba]

Speed of green: hey buddy, how's it coming along? I had questions about your netafim sprayers. Are you using them just connected to your main line or with the woodpecker emitters on your main also? I got some woodpeckers and sprayers and it says they can be used together. Not really sure what the point is off that. I got the 6.6gph in both single spray and double spray bowtie pattern, the 3.3s that you got, and I got 6.6 and 3.3 gph woodpecker emitters. Just got a pack of each to mess around with spray patterns and placement before I do a whole greenhouse with them.
Do you have any suggestions on configurations? I'm going to do 20 gallon bags and some 5 gallon pots of kings mix.

[queequeg152]

you need to use the wood pecker emitters with the spray stakes.

netafim sells spray stake assemblies that is complete with 12 or 24 inches of their nice micro tubing, a wood pecker emitter, and a spray stake.

if you use the stake by itself its going to spray way to much. would be funny to see, but yea you are supposed to use the emitters with these stakes.

[CrushnYuba]

O snap. Speed of green: do you think that's why you are getting that crazy spray you were talking about?

[CrushnYuba]

But the stakes that speed of green uses are the pressure compensated stakes. Not the regular ones. Those don't need the woodpeckers do they?
Speed of green: what do you think? What would you use on 20 gal bags? Maybe 2 bowtie sprayers?

[Speed of green]

2 bowties would be plenty, the pump will probably be the limiting factor when you calculate the plants and GPH/GPM - you may have to make different zones with valves to maintain pressure.

My stakes are the plum PC spray stakes, they have a 180 spray pattern. i used drip connecter 90's and 24" pieces of 1/4" line off my 5/8" mainlines.

im not sure what a woodpecker is, are you referring to the shape of the drip connecter fittings?

the top of my spray stakes don't have a woodpecker, you couldn't hook it straight to a main line, it wouldn't seal properly.

[queequeg152]

oh wow lol so you are not using the emitters?

lol let me pull down the pdf's from the netafim website... will take a while to find they have like 20 different websites for random shit.