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Old 02-20-2017, 06:07 PM #1
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What's the best pot size for full season given an unlimited plant count?

I was originally thinking of doing 800 gallon pots and quad planting but if plant count is less of an issue, what size pot would allow the most yield per sq ft in the same area the 800 gals would take up? A bunch of 200 gals? What other considerations am I missing?
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I have only been pulling 1.5-5 lb plants with my average being around 2.5. So if I assume that average next year, I figure I would shoot for 3 plants in a 200 gal, but what happens if you have three really vigorous plants in a 200 gallon? Can you push out 11# from a 200? I assume you would eventually be watering twice a day and feeding constantly?
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Old 02-21-2017, 08:27 AM #3
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i wouldn't quad plant if you don,t have too , lots of waste on the inside thats sun can,t penetrate . plants competing for food especially in smaller pots .

i,m finding 300 are ok size for what your talking about ,

i presume your thinking of extra soil costs , end day its little compared to the reward .you did well last season no reason not to go all in
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Old 02-23-2017, 06:07 AM #4
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Beanz I did shit last season lol. 2.5 lb average. I just want to ensure yield. I would actually be buying the same amount of soil or more because there would be more pots. Ten 1 lb plants is a lot easier to bet on than 1 10#er, but there must be an in-between. 5 2#ers? You can pull 6# from one plant in a 200 gal but I can't bet on that. Say double planted 300 gals. That should be 3.5-6#. I think you might be right with 300gals which is convenient since I have some.

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i dont see why your interested in quad or doubles , numbers are numbers .....run them in singles and you'll do a lot better imo . have some back ups at the ready to double up if a few are lacking in health or growth .

i doubled a few up towards the end of the season , though the originals will be out and not crowding the late start that was planted ...... but i,m not fighting a set finishing time and they are full blown sativa,s .

shit hay last season , hay lots guys be happy with 2.5 average if they are not sup lighting start season . don,t beat yourself up your not going to be an expert overnight . your going to learn somthing new each season . think strain ....... its the main difference i,m seeing , you have the ancient plant only them . dont mess with unknown strains do proven strains its always my biggest downfall i,m learning your interested in other strains test them as late starts see how they yield and smoke .

if your goals are 10 pounders then you need to follow the other boys that do them , and run 800 , work out what the goal is and keep going to you get there , its just time and learning and you'll be there soon enough .

do you not have a plant count ? do 200 x 300 gallons ..... you'll hit your target .

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Old 02-23-2017, 08:06 AM #6
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Thanks beanz. I don't take the shitty yield personal. Ifeel pretty proud actually. I just know yield should be much higher. Tho it is disheartening when I hear people pull 6 lbs out of 100gal.

Anyway, I have limited space, and no plant count per se but I wouldnt want to pack it full of 100 gals just because of what it might look like from the air. The reason for planting more than one per pot is because I haven't been able to take advantage of the soil volume with one plant. I don't trust that I will pull 6# single plants in a 200gal. Double triple or quad plants mean easier yield and it won't look as bad from the sky. Shcrews for example had some triple planted 800s that outyielded his singles. I could try singles in 800s but why would I expect 8# avg if I only pulled 2.5# avg out of ~400 gal. And that one plant better be the right one. If my growing skills are still developing(or maybe it's my 285 alkalinity water....) then I fgure I can make up for it with extra plants.
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You never know, but... weed tree stories can be a bit like fish stories. The 3 lb'r becomes a 4, then a bit more whiskey and its a 6lb'r.

Also depends on what people harvest. Some people trim every little everything. Part of the reason outdoor has a bad reputation. You get a pound that has 3/4th of a pound of good bud, and 1/4th of hash material.

To the topic. Some of it should depend on when you want to plug your plants into the final homes. You could grow a 1lb plant planting very late in the season, making health and vigor easy.

I saw a 1.5 lb plant in a 45 gallon pot this last season. Was pretty impressive.

Try a couple different sizes, so you can actually get some real data.

I agree with Baked, don't plan on 2x, 3x, 4x planting. Better to do single plants with nice spacing. Mid/Late season if you have some empty canopy can always move some extra plants in.

Also don't use a smaller pot and plant super early. Don't want to be root bound at the start of July.

I thought about going in smart pots this year, was going to do 200s, each pot on top of a pallet. Seemed like a good amount, a lot of soil but not a wasteful amount. The pallet is nice, adds some airflow to the bottom and you can always move them around if needed.

Plant count is still a bit of a concern to us, otherwise would plug a couple 1000 in July in 45s. Canopy to thick or to thin, just adjust the pots.

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You never know, but... weed tree stories can be a bit like fish stories. The 3 lb'r becomes a 4, then a bit more whiskey and its a 6lb'r.
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Old 02-23-2017, 09:42 AM #9
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triple planting 800 compared to 300 is a totally different thing . if anything it will counteract what your actually trying to achieve more than likely imo . test run this season before you fully commit would be a good idea ,

abandon any strains that haunt been proven in your area , your in safe hands with AOG , cause it proven and very mold resistant also .
your grow was dream beaver or something last year ? have i got it right ..... was yours the ones in rows planted together ? or have i got it mixed up .

put it this way .

go on instgram , have look at the big plant growers , 1 plant per pot . if quads were proven and a better way to go , well they would be doing it .
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You guys bring up a great point- I have to make sure I don't overplant. And MedR I like your idea of trying multiple sizes and plantings. I just think you have too much faith in my garden. Plants per soil volume should be relative to plant start size, planting date, and expected growth. I have terrible water, below average direct sun hours, and a lack of experience. If I have one plant in an 800gal, and for shcrews thats like 5-13#, but for me that's like 2.5-7 probably. So the plant isn't making use of all that soil volume and it relies on plant selection way too much. If you had small late starts you would plant more per pot right? I am just anticipating that even with good starts I will need more per pot. So I base plant count per pot based on my avg per plant and what that size pot should yield. Ie, if a good grower with good water and sun can pull 6# out of a 200gal and I pull 2.5 out of 300gal then I should plant three per 200gal.. maybe 2, in anticipation that I do more things right this year. But I also dont have much experience with this. But look at Shcrews. You would think it would be a terrible idea for him to put three in an 800gal when you look at the size of his plants by harvest but it did great for him. Tho of course he knew which ones to trple plant based on his expectations of their growth.

Beanz regarding strain, half of them will be Blue Dream this time The other half are confirmed good yield and loud-- I do need some variety. And yea thatwas me- i had bodhi varieties like bbhp and db.
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