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Old 04-13-2017, 06:07 AM
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Zamaldelica is an Excellent Breeding Tool

In my very limited experience at any rate. Last year I had an opportunity to use both male and female of this variety for my seed making ventures. Keeping in mind it's a small sample size, there are a few consistent traits that this line seems more likely/less likely to pass on to its progeny when hybridized.

I dusted a female Zamaldelica with pollen from a Hawaiian Sativa x Sweet Tooth #3. This resulted in a plant that behaved much like the pollen source but with fatter, brighter-orange pistils and a more exotic, tropical aroma. The Zamaldelica lend a bit of a cerebral rush to the front-end of the hybrid that borders on disorienting.

The Zamaldelica male I worked with was extremely vigorous, extremely abundant of flower, and built up a serious floral mass very quickly. My notes are sketchy on its other attributes but it was a very citrus-smelling plant as well. Deep and very angular serrations on on long, medium-wide blades. The crosses were:

Zamaldelica x Durga Mata

Awesome indoor plants with high potential for Sea of Green. Density, structure, trichome coverage of Durga Mata. Pistils, citric/tropical smell and flavor, trippy face-melting from the Zamaldelica. Silver patina from Orion. Finishes 9 to 10 weeks.

Aurora Indica x Zamaldelica

So-so indoor plants. The Aurora Indica plant I used was one of less representative phenotypes. Classic Christmas tree shape outside with long running colas of moderate size and disappointing density, but with a one-of-a-kind, very intense high and weird fruity flavor.

With Zamaldelica in the mix, the plant replicated its form to my dismay. Bud density was the same as the AI, pistils more like the Zamaldelica. Came out smelling softly fruity and sort of creamy. Slightly reminiscent of cantaloupes. The high is rather incapacitating at first on this one but mellows out into a sleppy/dreamy experience soon after.

So in my, again very limited, experience Zamaldelica tends to pass on a formidable and immediate cerebral edge to the high, tends to augment the terpenes of the other parent but never dominate, and tends not to lend many of its structural features to the progeny, either in the plant or the flowers. The one exception is in the pistils and in some individual progeny the characteristics of the trichomes.

I am going to dip back into the freezer and see if I can get some of that 9 month old pollen to make some babies with a Durban I have in about week 4 right now.

Top notch plant to grow and breed with no doubt.

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Awesome report green-genes77! This is totally the info I am looking for. Great to see that face melting quality coming through in your crosses.

I've just ordered some more Zamadelicas for further experimentation. Flowering out my Orient Express/Zamaldelica and Unknown Haze/Zamaldelica out now. Just popped Nepal Jam/Zamaldelica and another Haze/Zam cross for the next run.
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In my very limited experience at any rate. Last year I had an opportunity to use both male and female of this variety for my seed making ventures. Keeping in mind it's a small sample size, there are a few consistent traits that this line seems more likely/less likely to pass on to its progeny when hybridized.

I dusted a female Zamaldelica with pollen from a Hawaiian Sativa x Sweet Tooth #3. This resulted in a plant that behaved much like the pollen source but with fatter, brighter-orange pistils and a more exotic, tropical aroma. The Zamaldelica lend a bit of a cerebral rush to the front-end of the hybrid that borders on disorienting.

The Zamaldelica male I worked with was extremely vigorous, extremely abundant of flower, and built up a serious floral mass very quickly. My notes are sketchy on its other attributes but it was a very citrus-smelling plant as well. Deep and very angular serrations on on long, medium-wide blades. The crosses were:

Zamaldelica x Durga Mata

Awesome indoor plants with high potential for Sea of Green. Density, structure, trichome coverage of Durga Mata. Pistils, citric/tropical smell and flavor, trippy face-melting from the Zamaldelica. Silver patina from Orion. Finishes 9 to 10 weeks.

Aurora Indica x Zamaldelica

So-so indoor plants. The Aurora Indica plant I used was one of less representative phenotypes. Classic Christmas tree shape outside with long running colas of moderate size and disappointing density, but with a one-of-a-kind, very intense high and weird fruity flavor.

With Zamaldelica in the mix, the plant replicated its form to my dismay. Bud density was the same as the AI, pistils more like the Zamaldelica. Came out smelling softly fruity and sort of creamy. Slightly reminiscent of cantaloupes. The high is rather incapacitating at first on this one but mellows out into a sleppy/dreamy experience soon after.

So in my, again very limited, experience Zamaldelica tends to pass on a formidable and immediate cerebral edge to the high, tends to augment the terpenes of the other parent but never dominate, and tends not to lend many of its structural features to the progeny, either in the plant or the flowers. The one exception is in the pistils and in some individual progeny the characteristics of the trichomes.

I am going to dip back into the freezer and see if I can get some of that 9 month old pollen to make some babies with a Durban I have in about week 4 right now.

Top notch plant to grow and breed with no doubt.
Thank you for posting that. It was extremely helpful and something all us pollen chuckers should log here when we're testing our hybrids from known genetics as finding out which traits get passed on before we even order seeds would be invaluable to us all.
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Hi green-genes77,

I'm glad to hear you have had good experiences when using Zamaldelica for your own crosses, and that overall she improves the effects in the hybrids without adding long flowering times, lanky structures or bad indoor adaptability.

Your feedback is much appreciated!
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So I've popped Kali China/Nep Jam, Panama, Tikal, Panama/Malawi and Apollo 11 (bodhi) all with the intention to cross with the mighty Zamaldelica! It's all so far away and I cannot wait!
One week till I harvest the Orient Express/Zamaldelica - this one is smelling INCREDIBLE, spicy mango deliciousness.
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These are gonna be some great crosses nksv

I rubbed the stem of my Zamaldelica x KaliChina for the first time yesterday(she's in early flowering) and I must say the smell is something I never experienced before.
A mix of strong lime, strawberry bubblegum and lemongrass. What an incredible combo

I really must succeed in cloning this lady, she seems to be a very special smelling one.

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These are gonna be some great crosses nksv

I rubbed the stem of my Zamaldelica x KaliChina for the first time yesterday(she's in early flowering) and I must say the smell is something I never experienced before.
A mix of strong lime, strawberry bubblegum and lemongrass. What an incredible combo

I really must succeed in cloning this lady, she seems to be a very special smelling one.

Cheers

wow! sounds amazing!
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So I've popped Kali China/Nep Jam, Panama, Tikal, Panama/Malawi and Apollo 11 (bodhi) all with the intention to cross with the mighty Zamaldelica! It's all so far away and I cannot wait!
One week till I harvest the Orient Express/Zamaldelica - this one is smelling INCREDIBLE, spicy mango deliciousness.
Excellent selection of genetics nksv They all have tons of potential to produce something special when they are outcrossed with a special Zamaldelica parental plant. We have already produced Zamaldelica x Kali China and Zamaldelica x Panama hybrids and the initial tests are very promising.

Please, keep us updated!
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I rubbed the stem of my Zamaldelica x KaliChina for the first time yesterday(she's in early flowering) and I must say the smell is something I never experienced before.
A mix of strong lime, strawberry bubblegum and lemongrass. What an incredible combo

Cheers
Sounds delicious Koondense Outstanding terpenes are one of my main goals with the new Zamaldelica x Kali China hybrid, good resin production, short/moderate flowering time and size and well focused desirable hybrid effect as well, but remarkable terpenes first.
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Excellent selection of genetics nksv They all have tons of potential to produce something special when they are outcrossed with a special Zamaldelica parental plant. We have already produced Zamaldelica x Kali China and Zamaldelica x Panama hybrids and the initial tests are very promising.

Please, keep us updated!
Thanks Dubi, I intend to! Just found today that the Thai Zamaldelica I thought was female turned out to be a male! I am actually really happy as he has wonderful vigour, classic Thai look and beautiful structure and clones easy. I'm going to set him up with my beautiful Satori, Tikal, Panama/Malawi etc...woo!
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