[Borderliner]

After reading up on new led tech and seeing the results of the grow here on imag I setteled on Amare for my 4x4 closet grow. Added t5 54w coral plus and ati 54w actinic lights.

Fem Malawi and Fem Zamdelica from ACE seeds and one Barny Farms tangerine dream ( c99xg13).

6th week 11.5/12.5 veg'd just over 3 months 14/10. 35-36" tall now. 24-26" at flip for the african girls and for the tangerine d 22" at the flip and now 26." For the tight internodal length and manageable size in a 4x4 closet I credit the Amaire.

One Zamdelica was quite leggy so keeping her in a smaller pot and bending the top over evened out the canopy nicely.

Looks like I have one column pheno looking like the first to finish the cola is bigger than a beer cup and long as my forearm. Smells woody.

Second Malawi is branchy loaded with buds and dripping in resin. No kidding the most I've seen but only done half dozen grows. Smells woody and oily.

3 fem Zamdeica. 2 are bushy with one very much larger so maybe it's the golden tiger pheno. All smell anise and woody.

last Zam is the thai pheno with narrow pale green thin leaves and the poorest eater of the lot.


heat is not issue room temp 65-77F. It's winter here. the 4 built in heat fans and one wall fan pointing at it do the job.

[Borderliner]

[PetFlora]

I have lots of experience using aquarium hot5 tubes prior to LEDs

The 450 has all the blues you need. More does not help and could be counterproductive, as would too much N during flower

[Borderliner]

Originally Posted by PetFlora

I have lots of experience using aquarium hot5 tubes prior to LEDs

The 450 has all the blues you need. More does not help and could be counterproductive, as would too much N during flower

hey thanks man. I copied bits here and there I thought about that but didn't follow through. Yeah, their over feed a bit even with feedings ec 0.8 but the thai pheno is looking about how I've seen others except for the compact size part of it.

[Borderliner]

Originally Posted by PetFlora

I have lots of experience using aquarium hot5 tubes prior to LEDs

The 450 has all the blues you need. More does not help and could be counterproductive, as would too much N during flower

Hey PetFlora, checked my notes on this grow. Had to cause off the top of my head couldn't remember why I added the extra t5s. I got this idea from Riddlem's journal. The idea is try encourage early amber. Need uvb, sulfur based nutes, and a strain that carries the gene for early amber.

From Riddlem I got the actinic bulb promotes increased potency, coral plus promotes increaded trich production. Man all of them are resin laiden and one is just crazy so would think it's working.

I don't know enough about it but it's possible with the Amare blue it would be too much. The blue leds are on the secondary switch and they advised turning that on the last couple weeks to harden off the buds. Riddlem advocates to run uvb starting in veg to develope uvb receptors in the plants.

[Borderliner]

Was a bit hesitant to post here in led section as you guys pretty much know you stuff. So hoping to get feedback and your ideas

[PetFlora]

Originally Posted by Borderliner

Hey PetFlora, checked my notes on this grow. Had to cause off the top of my head couldn't remember why I added the extra t5s. I got this idea from Riddlem's journal. The idea is try encourage early amber. Need uvb, sulfur based nutes, and a strain that carries the gene for early amber.

From Riddlem I got the actinic bulb promotes increased potency, coral plus promotes increaded trich production. Man all of them are resin laiden and one is just crazy so would think it's working.

I don't know enough about it but it's possible with the Amare blue it would be too much. The blue leds are on the secondary switch and they advised turning that on the last couple weeks to harden off the buds. Riddlem advocates to run uvb starting in veg to develope uvb receptors in the plants.

I start seedlings/clones under the mono rings, then add CoBs once they are on their way. I have tried turning CoBs off the last 5-10 days before harvest, but results are inclusive

[Borderliner]

Originally Posted by PetFlora

I start seedlings/clones under the mono rings, then add CoBs once they are on their way. I have tried turning CoBs off the last 5-10 days before harvest, but results are inclusive

Pet Flora thanks good to know. When I turn them on it raises temps maybe 5F. so it's a balancing act for me as the closet is feed an ac duct from outside floor vent and it's winter here so not option at this point.

less bushy malawi one. 36" 6 wk 11.5/12.5


check out size of lower buds

[Borderliner]

this one usually doubles in size at flip. she did less than a 12" at flip.


internodal length 1"

[Borderliner]

6wks