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Old 02-11-2017, 08:08 PM #11
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I never used the word fungi in my OP because I'm not looking for any old fungi.
Like it or not that is what it is. There are probably hundreds of species of fungi which are endomycorrhizal with plants. Intraradices is just one which is mycorrhizal with a broad range of plant species and is readily available on the market. Somewhere in the forum there are instructions to grow your own if interested.
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There are some photos here but be aware that they are from below the surface inside a container.

https://archive.bio.ed.ac.uk/jdeacon/...y/mycorhiz.htm

Sorry if I was hasty earlier. I get riled by many of the marketers in the industry. Your product appears to be from one of the more honest ones.
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My bad, I should have looked up the species or known it. That is good that you are not using other inapplicable species mixed in. If you inoculate seeds or cuttings in peat pellets or some other media where the roots poke through you sometimes will see even tinier 'spikes' coming off the roots which I believe are an indication of infection by AM.
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Somewhere in the forum there are instructions to grow your own if interested.
Yeah I saw a few unsatisfying youtube videos on growing your own. I will check for those threads tho, thanks.

I was wondering how they get their products in a granular form. I plan on inoculating a bunch of plants (Comfrey maybe, because the root system looks pretty big ... may be too big tho), harvesting the roots, drying them, and pulverizing them to see if the powder will inoculate other plants. If you know of a better plant to use (I'm guessing plain ol' tomato) please let me know.

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There are some photos here but be aware that they are from below the surface inside a container.

https://archive.bio.ed.ac.uk/jdeacon/...y/mycorhiz.htm

Sorry if I was hasty earlier. I get riled by many of the marketers in the industry. Your product appears to be from one of the more honest ones.
Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.

No need to apologize. I feel the same way about the LED grow light industry ... MOST industries are full of fraudsters, as far as I'm concerned. Go capitalism!

But yeah, you're taking time out of your precious day to save me a lot of time, so I can't really complain about how the info is presented. I could but it would make me a (bigger) asshole.

Again, it's appreciated.

Do you have an opinion on https://www.fungi.com/product-detail/...bles-1-oz.html ? Not just for MJ, I am also looking for a lawn and garden mycorrhizal product.

And do you know if the soluble version https://www.fungi.com/product-detail/...uble-1-oz.html would be good for hydroponic systems, or is there something else you know of that would be more efficient?

They are more expensive than mykos, but I only plan on buying them once, then cultivating my own.

Again, it's appreciated.
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Manure & fungi ... like PB&J

Just fed it to about 6 garden spots.

Thinking about covering one of them with a clear tarp to keep temps up a little. See what difference that makes. Other than that they were all constructed the same.

They will be getting a lot of turnips and corn to play with the fungi.
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AM = arbuscular mycorrhiza(l) - (Intraradical) Arbuscules are the nutrient delivery junctions formed inside the roots (simply put) seen in one of the photos in the link. formed.
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Just fed it to about 6 garden spots.

Thinking about covering one of them with a clear tarp to keep temps up a little. See what difference that makes. Other than that they were all constructed the same.

They will be getting a lot of turnips and corn to play with the fungi.
Good luck! I'm hoping to grow some lion's mane mushrooms on some cow manure this year.

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AM = arbuscular mycorrhiza(l) - (Intraradical) Arbuscules are the nutrient delivery junctions formed inside the roots (simply put) seen in one of the photos in the link. formed.
Makes sense. I'll check it out when I get some time. Thanks.
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The best overall AM species to use is R Intraradices (glomus). Almost everyone gets this from the major supplier in Quebec Premier Tech. Fungi.com gets product from Mycorrhizal Applications [to the best of my knowledge] and Myco. App. has got this species from Premier.

There is NO such thing as a soluble spore. This is utterly ridiculous. If you believe this I've got some powdered seeds I can sell you. It is only the carrier clay powder which is soluble.

There is a major thread on mycorrhizal fungi on the forum. I think it has links to the DIY methods. Maybe if you search with my name you'll locate it.

Briefly; You can inoculate plants with local or purchased endomycorrhizal spores. Types of grass which die when frozen are often used. When the plant is killed above the surface the fungi is triggered to create spores. Then dig up the roots, chop them up and dry them. I store dry spores in the freezer. There is your homemade inoculant. Just put the chopped up dry mix into transplant holes, etc.
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The best overall AM species to use is R Intraradices (glomus). Almost everyone gets this from the major supplier in Quebec Premier Tech. Fungi.com gets product from Mycorrhizal Applications [to the best of my knowledge] and Myco. App. has got this species from Premier.

There is NO such thing as a soluble spore. This is utterly ridiculous. If you believe this I've got some powdered seeds I can sell you. It is only the carrier clay powder which is soluble.

There is a major thread on mycorrhizal fungi on the forum. I think it has links to the DIY methods. Maybe if you search with my name you'll locate it.

Briefly; You can inoculate plants with local or purchased endomycorrhizal spores. Types of grass which die when frozen are often used. When the plant is killed above the surface the fungi is triggered to create spores. Then dig up the roots, chop them up and dry them. I store dry spores in the freezer. There is your homemade inoculant. Just put the chopped up dry mix into transplant holes, etc.
Oh ok. I saw Paul Stamets' 6 ways mushrooms can save the world on youtube years ago, and that got me interested in mycorrhiza. He was so deep into it, I assumed he made his own superior products from scratch.

Interesting info. Extremely helpful. Thanks again.
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Oh ok. I saw Paul Stamets' 6 ways mushrooms can save the world on youtube years ago, and that got me interested in mycorrhiza. He was so deep into it, I assumed he made his own superior products from scratch.

Interesting info. Extremely helpful. Thanks again.
amazing work he does, Stamets, hes probably busy developing oyster mushrooms that eat plutonium!
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:05 AM #20
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amazing work he does, Stamets, hes probably busy developing oyster mushrooms that eat plutonium!
He already said in that video that mushrooms absorb/eat radiation. I forgot the term he used, but something like that.He didn't go into detail tho.

I read that hemp oil protects the skin from radiation too. Cannabis and fungi. It's illegal 2 save the earth. Sad.
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