[pariah420]

I've been looking at these too. Think I'm going to order two vyprx plus this weekend. Slightly more output then the spydr and little more wattage. The avg umol is higher then spydr too.

[WeedPorn]

Originally Posted by murran

Hi jocat,
thankyou for the reply, yes i would be very interested in the lab tests.

I may actually get the VYPRX plus units instead as i think it will suite my space better than the spydrx. Do you have any experience of these? I know they have to be hung higher above the canopy 18" or more.

Originally Posted by jocat

Murran, The spyders I have are the physiospec spectrum & the white light they produce is much nicer to work around than the red hps light, the plants responded right away and grow with no signs of light poisoning from being as close as 6" to the canopy, because you want them right on top stretchy strains require the lift every few days, I run a CinX that needs a daily lift & a northern lights cross that only needs it every 10 days..genetics..the trichome density was greater & the trich's stubby with a uniformity I have never seen before, same strains, Iv'e run them under gavitas many times, the trichs taller and more tangled under the HPS. I have all my products lab tested and the potency was the same at 7 weeks under the spyder as i get with 8 under the gavitas, this next batch went 8 weeks under the spyders and it goes out for testing soon, I'll post those results if your interested. one thing to consider is how much less AC is required when cooling a room full of these bad boys vs 1000w DEHPS, and say asta la vista to bulb changes, but the $ stings pretty good. I Just ordered a couple more

Originally Posted by PetFlora

If it's important to you, I suggest you ask them

There are all amare specific:
Specs

Model/SKU: SolarECLIPSE SE450/se450uvb

Power output: 450 watts

HID equivalent: ~800 watts

LEDs:

6 x CREE CXB3070 Chip On Board (COB) LEDs
60 x 5 watt supplemental CREE XP-G2/XP-E2 LEDs (10 per module)
Spectrum: Enhanced white light. White 3000K COBs with 6500K white, blue, IR (infrared) and UV-A/B. 93 CRI.

PAR:

No lenses installed: 1207umol @ 24", 770umol @ 36", 546umol @ 48"
Lenses installed: 2118umol @ 24", 1523umol @ 36", 974umol @ 48"
Lens angle: 90 degrees

Coverage area:

Veg: 4.5' x 4.5' @ 36" above canopy
Flower: 4' x 4' @ 24" above canopy
Thermal management: 4 x premium high-CFM ball-bearing fans, Proprietary copper-core heat-sinks

Daisy chain: No

Dimensions: 21.65”x 21.65”x 3.15”

Operating temperature: Avoid extreme ambient heat

Operating/input voltage: 85v-265v AC; 4.45A @ 110v, 2.23A @ 220v; 50Hz-60Hz

Output voltage: UL standard output voltage - less than 76v DC

Product weight: 33.0 lbs

Recommended height above canopy: 20"-32"; Amare does not recommend to place the COB panel less than 28" above the canopy with lenses installed. The special lenses are designed for high-bay applications that need a minimum of ~32" to maximize the coverage and intensity within the recommended footprint

Additional details: Aluminum housing with brilliant gloss-white powder coat

Product includes: Fixture and cord; Heavy-duty ratchet hangers and adjustable H-brackets to attach the panels together

Recommended for: Grow tents; Full-cycle growing from seedling to flower; Soil, hydroponic, aeroponic, or aquaponic systems

Manufacturer's Warranty: 5 years

Source from: https://www.ledgrowlightsdepot.com/p...-uvb-450-watts

[WeedPorn]

The PAR value for the amare is amazing!
I'm torn between Amare SE450+uvb and a same budget Panel of SPYDRx what is your advice?

[F_T_P!]

Originally Posted by pariah420

I've been looking at these too. Think I'm going to order two vyprx plus this weekend. Slightly more output then the spydr and little more wattage. The avg umol is higher then spydr too.

This

I was looking to get those ursa lights by starlight, but with no real grow pics and pre-orders not shipping i started looking at spydr+. The vyprx+ is where it's at if you're not going vert, straight beast mode and real life proof (if you look around youtube) of plants being grown well with these units. looking to get 3 for 4x8 coverage for an average of 950μmol/m2/s and if i add another vyprx+ it goes to average of 1400μmol/m2/s . Lots of up from cheddar but only $90 month electric with 3 lights, passive cooling and no A/C, seems too good to be true lol.

[F_T_P!]

Originally Posted by WeedPorn

There are all amare specific:
Specs

Model/SKU: SolarECLIPSE SE450/se450uvb

Power output: 450 watts

HID equivalent: ~800 watts

LEDs:

6 x CREE CXB3070 Chip On Board (COB) LEDs
60 x 5 watt supplemental CREE XP-G2/XP-E2 LEDs (10 per module)
Spectrum: Enhanced white light. White 3000K COBs with 6500K white, blue, IR (infrared) and UV-A/B. 93 CRI.

PAR:

No lenses installed: 1207umol @ 24", 770umol @ 36", 546umol @ 48"
Lenses installed: 2118umol @ 24", 1523umol @ 36", 974umol @ 48"
Lens angle: 90 degrees

Coverage area:

Veg: 4.5' x 4.5' @ 36" above canopy
Flower: 4' x 4' @ 24" above canopy
Thermal management: 4 x premium high-CFM ball-bearing fans, Proprietary copper-core heat-sinks

Daisy chain: No

Dimensions: 21.65”x 21.65”x 3.15”

Operating temperature: Avoid extreme ambient heat

Operating/input voltage: 85v-265v AC; 4.45A @ 110v, 2.23A @ 220v; 50Hz-60Hz

Output voltage: UL standard output voltage - less than 76v DC

Product weight: 33.0 lbs

Recommended height above canopy: 20"-32"; Amare does not recommend to place the COB panel less than 28" above the canopy with lenses installed. The special lenses are designed for high-bay applications that need a minimum of ~32" to maximize the coverage and intensity within the recommended footprint

Additional details: Aluminum housing with brilliant gloss-white powder coat

Product includes: Fixture and cord; Heavy-duty ratchet hangers and adjustable H-brackets to attach the panels together

Recommended for: Grow tents; Full-cycle growing from seedling to flower; Soil, hydroponic, aeroponic, or aquaponic systems

Manufacturer's Warranty: 5 years

Source from: https://www.ledgrowlightsdepot.com/p...-uvb-450-watts

The Amare look like great lights, I just like how fluence is using passive cooling, so no worries about fans failing and burning out the lights and the vyprx+ only weighs 15lbs.

[Muleskinner]

Great technical detail in those specs but they're lacking the two benchmarks you need to compare them with Fluence's output: total PAR and PAR/J

[PetFlora]

Originally Posted by F_T_P!

The Amare look like great lights, I just like how fluence is using passive cooling, so no worries about fans failing and burning out the lights and the vyprx+ only weighs 15lbs.

I have a SPYDR 600. although it too is passive, much more efficient if you use a fan. I use a floor standing recirc fan aimed high to cool the bars

[dragonbender]

just ordered 3 units of the spyderx plus only for flowering. I use a MH 600w byulb for veg.

I would of have went with a few units of the Amare or the CX420 but height restriction was the main reason for purchasing these units. Working in 8ft space on flood table space is a serious limitation.

[murran]

I think I'm sold on the vyprx+ units, passive cooling, each unit covers 4x3 area

[PetFlora]

Originally Posted by dragonbender

just ordered 3 units of the spyderx plus only for flowering. I use a MH 600w byulb for veg.

I would of have went with a few units of the Amare or the CX420 but height restriction was the main reason for purchasing these units. Working in 8ft space on flood table space is a serious limitation.

Height is definitely a consideration. I do F & D, which limits my height, too. Trellising solved that problem. I train the longest branches horizontally

Also, been working on changing the rez to a shorter, wider one with more volume

I had a bit of a pH issue which burned the shade leafs