[ReikoX]

Originally Posted by Chillin12

I planted 5 seeds of questionable origin. They were supposed to be Autofem sour d. I ended up with two plants and a mutant.

Originally Posted by Chillin12

Unfortunately I thought these were autoflowers .

Originally Posted by Chillin12

Really? Toss them?

That's what I would do. I know opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and nobody wants another. But.... Why would you want to grow questionable genetics with poor germination rates? You planned on growing autos, why change your plan? Is there something special about these unknown plants? You already know they aren't auto flowering, do you know they are still feminized? Will they turn hermaphrodite and have to be pulled anyway? Sorry, not trying to be a Debbie Downer, there are lots of good seed companies out there. Grow some good genetics and stop wasting time on questionable seeds.

[aridbud]

Originally Posted by Chillin12

Thank you for your experienced eye.

So, in a week when I'm sure that they're not autos, replant the photos in 10 gal pots and switch to HPS. That should stunt them enough so my Autos have enough light to finish their flower. Should I also super crop them or just set them up in a scrog?

That's up to you...both ways effective...personally, I'd scrog or LST...outdoors I super crop photos, but indoors, I like to have the least damage (and recovery time) since I'm paying the utility bill.
Try it both ways to experiment...the choice is yours.

[Chillin12]

Originally Posted by ReikoX

But.... Why would you want to grow questionable genetics with poor germination rates? You planned on growing autos, why change your plan? Is there something special about these unknown plants? You already know they aren't auto flowering, do you know they are still feminized? Will they turn hermaphrodite and have to be pulled anyway? Sorry, not trying to be a Debbie Downer, there are lots of good seed companies out there. Grow some good genetics and stop wasting time on questionable seeds.

For you it would be the right decision.

I got 10 seeds and instead of picking the 5 best, I picked the 5 worst. Piece of shell missing on one. If these are sour d photos, the best seeds will be used to plant mom's.

When I planted these I had no idea I was going to get the"seed bank" seeds 5 days later. I had been delayed almost 3 weeks before they shipped.

Not only are these my first cannabis plants, these are the first plants I have grown in my over 50 years of life. I have watched these grow up to 10 nodes. Some branches have triple leaf clusters that I am told are good. It is huge and short as females typically are. They also have crossed green hairs at the nodes (heard this could be a female trait)

I completely understand that for you they are pointless fodder but unless I see balls(I watch carefully) I want to see them to the end. I believe I can veg them while I finish the autos. Then it won't matter what sex they are. I will kill any hermies or males.

[ReikoX]

Good luck and have fun, I'll be watching the show.

Originally Posted by Chillin12

Great info. Thanks to you and YouTube I now know the meaning of manifold /Mainline.

Unfortunately I thought these were autoflowers . With a plants in the tenth node with no topping, I think they're a little old for mainlining. Except for the main Cola the rest of the branches are at the same canopy height. I'm thinking maybe super cropping will slow down the the main stem long enough for the side branches to catch up. I was going to use a loose strip of cloth to hold all of the colas together.

The idea of using a net for scrog seems like better support for all the side branches.

I'm not really worried about the height with 80 inch ceiling. But I am keeping my light 20 inches away or more. I will have to drop the tray from on top of the milk crates before any training or netting. I won't really want to move them after that.

Its never too late to create a main hub you just lose that extra growth that could've been done somewhere else if you decide to continue. If anything your plants will be happier since they're a bit more mature and could handle the training more efficiently. Its just up to you if you want to lose that extra four nodes growth.

Ah I didn't know that you should be good for a while then. You're correct with super cropping as well.
Just make sure not to break the skin.

I have a random bag seed I planted for fun just the otherday, just to mess training techniques on while these girls are growing.

Whorlloed phyllotaxy is awesome! Esp. if it stays you get to veg for a shorter amount of time for the same yield.

How hot are your temps in there/ what's your RH that's a lot of droop to have everyday

[Chillin12]

Originally Posted by TrueReligion

How hot are your temps in there/ what's your RH that's a lot of droop to have everyday

Temps pretty steady at 77 with the lights on and 66-68 with lights off. RH is 44-65 depending on how recently I have watered. Week 2 they were 85-92℅ RH at dark time. Solved that by leaving exhaust fan on low all the time.

Recently they have been dry and Droopy every morning. I watered them just before dark time in this picture. They recover significantly once the lights come on. Right now I'm leaving the lights on for 24 hours so I can change their downtime to the middle of the night.

[DjKinetics]

if your watering before lights out the humidity is going to sky rocket i dont know if that explains your plants wilting everyday, thats odd .also it means your plants are having to use energy everyday to repair that.

[Dakine]

So If I Was you, I would keep all plants and switch the light schedule to 20/4. The Photos will still stay in veg and if the others are true auto flowers then they will continue to flower.. I do think they need some rest time, so they will get 4 hours to rest to make certain hormones and do the other shit they do lol..

That just seems like the best idea in my opinion. Only because you would be able to switch the lights to 12/12 when the Autos are done.. I would think switching to 20/4 could only help both types of plants.

Of course if you see any balls on any of them with pistils, then chop em.

[Chillin12]

Originally Posted by DjKinetics

if your watering before lights out the humidity is going to sky rocket i dont know if that explains your plants wilting everyday, thats odd .also it means your plants are having to use energy everyday to repair that.

They're quite wilted and feel dry all around the fabric pot before I start watering. The humidity never gets above 65 even with the temperature drop since I am constantly changing the air with my exhaust.

This morning the same thing on the big plants, droopy dry leaves. The smaller plants look amazing. Some of the droopy look is from my tucking the fan leaves but not this much.