[Chillin12]

I planted 5 seeds of questionable origin. They were supposed to be Autofem sour d. I ended up with two plants and a mutant. So 6 days later I planted 1 White Widow autofem and three Northern Lights Autofem from a seed bank. Of course all 4 seeds exploded out of the soil. Now the original seeds are 32 days old 17 inches tall with 10 nodes no signs of sex. The other four are 26 days old 14" tall , 7-8 nodes and showing white hairs.

I'm still planning to run veg lights for a week or two. If the originals don't show sex by then I can assume that they are not autos.

Now my big question. Would my Autos suffer greatly by using 12/12 lights? Started them on 24 then I switched to 6.5/1.5 for a short time trying to fix a humidity issue. then to 20/4 with proper humidity.

Or should I move the photos into a smaller veg tent under T5s to finish vegging while i have the autos on 20/4 hps? When the Autos are done move the photos back to the flower tent for their 12/12 hps. I'm afraid that the photos will outgrow the veg tent in the time it takes the Autos to finish on HPS

[ReikoX]

It definitely sounds like you have photos as autos usually show in three weeks or so. Personally, I would toss the two photo plants and focus on the auto flowering ones. Keep them on 20/4 for best yields.

Another option would be to keep them as bonsai moms if you have the space. Plants can easily be kept small by keeping them root bound and frequent trimming. When you want to grow them, you could simply take a couple of clones.

[Chillin12]

Originally Posted by ReikoX

It definitely sounds like you have photos as autos usually show in three weeks or so. Personally, I would toss the two photo plants and focus on the auto flowering ones. Keep them on 20/4 for best yields.

Another option would be to keep them as bonsai moms if you have the space. Plants can easily be kept small by keeping them root bound and frequent trimming. When you want to grow them, you could simply take a couple of clones.

Really? Toss them? I've been tucking the fan leaves for the last couple weeks . They have almost as many Tops on those two plants as the four Autos combined.

I just counted them and the photos have 13 tops each plus the main Cola. They grew another inch today so 18" tall and 17" wide.

Autos have 8 tops plus the main Cola each. 15-16" tall and 14-15" wide.

They can't get root bound because they're in fabric pots. I also don't use clones. They are 32 days since I dropped a seed in the soil. Since I thought they were Autos I planted them in their final pot.

Between the photos and the autos they are probably taking up 75% of my 4 by 4 tray.

I'm beginning to think that I don't care how much I get from the autos.

Honestly if they're photos, keep the 24/7 light on.

Autos will Not stop flowering on 24/7 light.

In fact you will be delighted with the newfound speed. Plus kill two bird with one stone ( longer veg for your maybe photo plants when its time to harvest your autos they should be huge and ready to flip)

My OG Auto flowered around week 5-6

I'm using 1000W HPS with Dr. krippling OGKA, KR. Bodhi MT,CK,BBHP,GO,LM,LT,GF,

[Chillin12]

Originally Posted by TrueReligion

Honestly if they're photos, keep the 24/7 light on.

Autos will Not stop flowering on 24/7 light.

In fact you will be delighted with the newfound speed. Plus kill two bird with one stone ( longer veg for your maybe photo plants when its time to harvest your autos they should be huge and ready to flip)

My OG Auto flowered around week 5-6

I'm using 1000W HPS with Dr. krippling OGKA, KR. Bodhi MT,CK,BBHP,GO,LM,LT,GF,

So I still have hope that they will auto. I was planning on keeping the MH on for a couple weeks anyway. I was worried about the stretching when I switch to hps for the autos flowering. By then these photos may be 90+cm.

I guess I could put up my scrog net. The autos would have some light derivation but as long as I got an oz or 2 it would hold me over till I finished the 12/12 for the photos.

You can keep the height down on the Photos by putting the lights down closer if you want, I only used an HPS right from seed and mine didn't stretch at all since the 1000w HPS sat at 2 feet above the canopy.

Scrog would be a good idea until then you can always tie the top to the bottom of the meristem.
If the plants do end up photo period it seems you're concerned about height for a flat canopy I'd reccomend a manifold, mainline, or making a main hub three names for the same thing.

Here's a group picture from Jan 19 all were started at the same time the auto is the one in the middle lightly trained this photo was at one month old

[Chillin12]

These are my girls. The vibrant picture was last night. The wilted picture is from now. This happens every day. :(

I watered them just before lights out a couple hours ago.

The slightly smaller plants are my autos and they will be one month in 4 days.

The slightly larger plants in the middle we're one month from seed 2 days ago.

[aridbud]

Sounds like a mix. Finish the auto grow using 18/6 or 20/4 light regimen, then transplant obvious photos, let them adjust to transplanting before switching to 12/12. You'll reap the benefits of autos which your photos start doing their thing.
Good luck!

[Chillin12]

Originally Posted by TrueReligion

Scrog would be a good idea until then you can always tie the top to the bottom of the meristem.
If the plants do end up photo period it seems you're concerned about height for a flat canopy I'd reccomend a manifold, mainline, or making a main hub three names for the same thing.

Great info. Thanks to you and YouTube I now know the meaning of manifold /Mainline.

Unfortunately I thought these were autoflowers . With a plants in the tenth node with no topping, I think they're a little old for mainlining. Except for the main Cola the rest of the branches are at the same canopy height. I'm thinking maybe super cropping will slow down the the main stem long enough for the side branches to catch up. I was going to use a loose strip of cloth to hold all of the colas together.

The idea of using a net for scrog seems like better support for all the side branches.

I'm not really worried about the height with 80 inch ceiling. But I am keeping my light 20 inches away or more. I will have to drop the tray from on top of the milk crates before any training or netting. I won't really want to move them after that.

[Chillin12]

Originally Posted by aridbud

Sounds like a mix. Finish the auto grow using 18/6 or 20/4 light regimen, then transplant obvious photos, let them adjust to transplanting before switching to 12/12. You'll reap the benefits of autos which your photos start doing their thing.
Good luck!

Thank you for your experienced eye.

So, in a week when I'm sure that they're not autos, replant the photos in 10 gal pots and switch to HPS. That should stunt them enough so my Autos have enough light to finish their flower. Should I also super crop them or just set them up in a scrog?