[Zarezhu]

Hey guys, I'm trying to optimize my room.

Im about to flip tables of 25 (I'm seeking less veg time and less larf).

I have a bunch of plastic half gallon pots, and a bunch of fabric one gallon pots. Not sure which to use. I'm able to multifeed as many times per day as necessary. Even so, my fabric pots got decent salt buildup last round, so I wouldn't mind using a larger pot that doesnt dry out as fast.

This last round was 16 plants vigorously rooted in 1g pots (insane rootball, plants got too big as well, even with many large prunings). I just got too much salt buildup, even though it didnt look like the coco was ever really drying out.

The plants are rooted in 4" cups right now, about to be topped to 3-4 tops each, left to veg a week, and then flipped.

I'm assuming 3-4 colas, being 75-100 colas per 4x4, wouldn't leave any empty space. Possibly even overcrowd.

I can use plastic pots, but the roots will spiral. I can fill my 1g root pots half way up, or even all the way up for 25 1g plants per table. Not sure which is the optimum way. I just noticed much less salt buildup on my plastic pots.


Thanks for any advice guys

[Trichstarfam]

hello sir. both of those work great with coco. Salt buildup is more about the style of growing than it is the container.

With flood drain the salts are pushed up into the pots and doesn't get flushed out. You would want to manually by hand flood them from the top at least once a week (imo) and let that dtw to keep the salts out.

The other method would be top feed dtw. Its the best way (imo) as you are constantly flushing out salts and by dtw you are not mixing the salts back into the reservoir. I top feed 200-500ml every three hours and love it. I run both coco and rockwool blocks the same way and couldn't be happier with the health of the plants.

[gr866]

Originally Posted by Zarezhu

Hey guys, I'm trying to optimize my room.

Im about to flip tables of 25 (I'm seeking less veg time and less larf).

I have a bunch of plastic half gallon pots, and a bunch of fabric one gallon pots. Not sure which to use. I'm able to multifeed as many times per day as necessary. Even so, my fabric pots got decent salt buildup last round, so I wouldn't mind using a larger pot that doesnt dry out as fast.

This last round was 16 plants vigorously rooted in 1g pots (insane rootball, plants got too big as well, even with many large prunings). I just got too much salt buildup, even though it didnt look like the coco was ever really drying out.

The plants are rooted in 4" cups right now, about to be topped to 3-4 tops each, left to veg a week, and then flipped.

I'm assuming 3-4 colas, being 75-100 colas per 4x4, wouldn't leave any empty space. Possibly even overcrowd.

I can use plastic pots, but the roots will spiral. I can fill my 1g root pots half way up, or even all the way up for 25 1g plants per table. Not sure which is the optimum way. I just noticed much less salt buildup on my plastic pots.


Thanks for any advice guys

What nutes are you running, are you using drip clean? I love my smart pots, using 3 gallon now but use mostly 2 gallon, 3 gallon is a lot of work.
I hand water twice a day, but about to hook up a simple drip.
If I were to make that run, I did a 12 plant run with one gallon Folgers plastic containers. using coco in Hempy style grow. I would do the one gallon fabric pots with drain to waste and your auto system H2O.
Just an opinion.
GR

[Zarezhu]

Im using RO water, Calmag+ (5ml in veg, 2ml in bloom, 1/8tsp epsom per gallon starting week 3 of bloom). Canna Coco A+B for my base nutes. Occasionally I'll use cannazyme. I'll use pk 13/14 through certain parts of bloom as well. PH is always 5.8-6.2, and EC is always 1.1-1.3. Certain strains seem overfed with this light EC, and certain strains seem underfed. Nonetheless, I've been sticking to 1.1EC feedings around 5-6x a day in late bloom with extremely rooted pots.My room is sealed, with co2 supplementation and optimum temps/humidity/airflow.

Ive got a 275g res with a danner mag drive pump, feeding 4 tables (100 sites). Plenty of pressure, and I have a valve that can regulate it up or down. Top feed, DTW, 1/4" line going to every plant. I was watering 6x a day towards the end of flower. The pots never dried out, but the salt buildup definitely was showing on the outside of the faric pots, and the top of the coco. And it showed up fairly heavily too. I dont know if its because the sides of the pots was drying out while the rootball was staying moist?

I didn't use drip clean this time. This coming harvest I'll use drip clean throughout. It seems like it would be worth it.

I'm still fairly tempted to just run 25 half gallon plastic pots per table. 25 one gallon pots seems like a large amount of coco for smallish plants, and while the fabric pots definitely had denser rootballs, there was just so much salt buildup that wasnt there in the plastic pots.

[Zarezhu]

This is my second run with irrigation. I was using 2g pots, hand watering once a day, and it drove me crazy. The results were nice, but mentally I was becoming unstable lol. The garden is about 5 miles from my house, so I'd have to make the drive every day, and be around people I didnt want to be around sometimes.

After two runs with Irrigation, im starting to figure the quirks out. It takes some time to dial a decent larger scaled irrigation system.

@gr866- You had good results with 12 1g plants per 1kw right? This is why I'm leaning towards 25 half gallon pots for the 1k. The plants would possibly not be large enough to properly fill in the 1g pots.

[Trichstarfam]

Originally Posted by Zarezhu

Im using RO water, Calmag+ (5ml in veg, 2ml in bloom, 1/8tsp epsom per gallon starting week 3 of bloom). Canna Coco A+B for my base nutes. Occasionally I'll use cannazyme. I'll use pk 13/14 through certain parts of bloom as well. PH is always 5.8-6.2, and EC is always 1.1-1.3. Certain strains seem overfed with this light EC, and certain strains seem underfed. Nonetheless, I've been sticking to 1.1EC feedings around 5-6x a day in late bloom with extremely rooted pots.My room is sealed, with co2 supplementation and optimum temps/humidity/airflow.

Ive got a 275g res with a danner mag drive pump, feeding 4 tables (100 sites). Plenty of pressure, and I have a valve that can regulate it up or down. Top feed, DTW, 1/4" line going to every plant. I was watering 6x a day towards the end of flower. The pots never dried out, but the salt buildup definitely was showing on the outside of the faric pots, and the top of the coco. And it showed up fairly heavily too. I dont know if its because the sides of the pots was drying out while the rootball was staying moist?

I didn't use drip clean this time. This coming harvest I'll use drip clean throughout. It seems like it would be worth it.

I'm still fairly tempted to just run 25 half gallon plastic pots per table. 25 one gallon pots seems like a large amount of coco for smallish plants, and while the fabric pots definitely had denser rootballs, there was just so much salt buildup that wasnt there in the plastic pots.

I run two 1/4 line to each and get a nice amount of water with just a touch of runoff. Once a week or so ill plug the pumps straight in to the outlet and run them till they drain a good amount.

As far as the fabric pots ive ran 24/7 top feed on hydroton and still had salt buildup on the outside sides of the fabric pots. I think this is just a matter of the water draining out the bottom so there isnt anything to wash the salts off the outside sides of the fabric. At least thats what i assumed.

Also its nice to meet you guys over here ive been on riu for a really long time but it seems there are much more experienced growers and breeders here on ic.

[gr866]

Originally Posted by Zarezhu

Im using RO water, Calmag+ (5ml in veg, 2ml in bloom, 1/8tsp epsom per gallon starting week 3 of bloom). Canna Coco A+B for my base nutes. Occasionally I'll use cannazyme. I'll use pk 13/14 through certain parts of bloom as well. PH is always 5.8-6.2, and EC is always 1.1-1.3. Certain strains seem overfed with this light EC, and certain strains seem underfed. Nonetheless, I've been sticking to 1.1EC feedings around 5-6x a day in late bloom with extremely rooted pots.My room is sealed, with co2 supplementation and optimum temps/humidity/airflow.

Ive got a 275g res with a danner mag drive pump, feeding 4 tables (100 sites). Plenty of pressure, and I have a valve that can regulate it up or down. Top feed, DTW, 1/4" line going to every plant. I was watering 6x a day towards the end of flower. The pots never dried out, but the salt buildup definitely was showing on the outside of the faric pots, and the top of the coco. And it showed up fairly heavily too. I dont know if its because the sides of the pots was drying out while the rootball was staying moist?

I didn't use drip clean this time. This coming harvest I'll use drip clean throughout. It seems like it would be worth it.

I'm still fairly tempted to just run 25 half gallon plastic pots per table. 25 one gallon pots seems like a large amount of coco for smallish plants, and while the fabric pots definitely had denser rootballs, there was just so much salt buildup that wasnt there in the plastic pots.

Here are a few pic of my 12 plant coco hempys in the 1 gal Folgers containers. Exodus Cheese and the right and White Rhino on the left, all clones. Had planned to do 24 but lost 10 clones to some shit don't know what caused it. Kept 2 mothers and flowered the rest.
This was my fungal gnat grow, I had hell with them fuckers. Cost me about 1/5 my harvest weight. Even lost the mothers, which was a bitch as the Exodus Cheese was a real keeper. I took them to a friends house while I went on a trip and he put them behind on out building. Well the farmer behind him sprayed Roundup over his entire pasture and the drift got the mothers.

If I do this style again I will use one gallon smart pots.

Oh and run a single strain of clones.

[Trichstarfam]

A few in 4" pots without caps. No noticable salt builups. I like the 6" squared with the floracaps but for getting them started or low veg runs the small pots are a good choice.