[GOT_BUD?]

Anyone using them?

Searching the net turned up a couple people using them with great success. Just wanted to know if anyone here was using them.

I'll probably end up using three of these in a new grow in the coming months.

Finally going to be growing again after a 10 year self imposed hiatus. And am really starting to get excited.

[Dion]

pet will be along shortly to sell this to you

honestly though its over priced and not a great product


you can do much much much better for less

[Phaeton]

Amare uses an almost identical spectrum as Perfect Sun does, only with more choices.
I use the "Dwarf Star" because of its light output, three different white LEDs surrounded by monowave supplement LEDs, same as Amare. Four each at $389 and 230 w is 920 watts for 1556 dollars. Very nice coverage with four of them.
Amare SP900 comes in with 900 watts for $1800 at the vendor I use.
I also own three Black Dog 400 watt units at $1200 each. Their wider beams go in the center for good overlap, they play well with others.

I use several other brands as well, but the Black Dog and Dwarf Star are my favorite feed lamps.

Black Dog per watt: $3

Amare per watt: $2

Dwarf Star per watt: $1.7

Black Dog is among the higher priced groups while Dwarf Star is among the least expensive.
Amare seems to be in the less expensive group. Hardly overpricing considering what the equivalent competition is doing. Perfect Sun (Dwarf Star's parent) has a lensed version similar to Amare but it, surprise surprise, costs $2.09 per watt.
Right there with Amare.

I cannot find any excuse not to use Amare, unless like me, much time and money has already been invested in a working system with many years of service left.

I am doing the changeover to white LED with supplementmental monowave, but with five to ten year lives on the lights it is a slow change.
And with a five to ten year life on the lights, initial cost is not the determining factor, it is a minor factor.

[GOT_BUD?]

Originally Posted by Phaeton

Amare uses an almost identical spectrum as Perfect Sun does, only with more choices.
I use the "Dwarf Star" because of its light output, three different white LEDs surrounded by monowave supplement LEDs, same as Amare. Four each at $389 and 230 w is 920 watts for 1556 dollars. Very nice coverage with four of them.
Amare SP900 comes in with 900 watts for $1800 at the vendor I use.
I also own three Black Dog 400 watt units at $1200 each. Their wider beams go in the center for good overlap, they play well with others.

I use several other brands as well, but the Black Dog and Dwarf Star are my favorite feed lamps.

Black Dog per watt: $3

Amare per watt: $2

Dwarf Star per watt: $1.7

Black Dog is among the higher priced groups while Dwarf Star is among the least expensive.
Amare seems to be in the less expensive group. Hardly overpricing considering what the equivalent competition is doing. Perfect Sun (Dwarf Star's parent) has a lensed version similar to Amare but it, surprise surprise, costs $2.09 per watt.
Right there with Amare.

I cannot find any excuse not to use Amare, unless like me, much time and money has already been invested in a working system with many years of service left.

I am doing the changeover to white LED with supplementmental monowave, but with five to ten year lives on the lights it is a slow change.
And with a five to ten year life on the lights, initial cost is not the determining factor, it is a minor factor.

That right there is what I keep coming back to. I didn't go so far as to break down as you have so eloquently done (Thank you btw). But I'm starting a new grow, fresh from the ground up, and I can't find a compelling reason not to use them. It's like they've hit the nail right on the head. I'm just one to not be an early adaptor. I like using tried and true equipment, especially when spending $6,000 on 3 lights.

I think I just need to take a deep breath, and pull the trigger on exhale.

Dion - I have no want, will or desire to build my own. I deal with this stuff (electronics) all day at work. The last thing I want to do is deal with building stuff at home when I could be growing.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by GOT_BUD?

That right there is what I keep coming back to. I didn't go so far as to break down as you have so eloquently done (Thank you btw). But I'm starting a new grow, fresh from the ground up, and I can't find a compelling reason not to use them. It's like they've hit the nail right on the head. I'm just one to not be an early adaptor. I like using tried and true equipment, especially when spending $6,000 on 3 lights.

I think I just need to take a deep breath, and pull the trigger on exhale.

Dion - I have no want, will or desire to build my own. I deal with this stuff (electronics) all day at work. The last thing I want to do is deal with building stuff at home when I could be growing.

https://www.pacificlightconcepts.com/product/cxp-420/


https://northerngrowlights.com/colle...nt=26046738440


I'm not saying you have to build, there r now plenty of good options that dont use yesteryears tech

[GOT_BUD?]

Originally Posted by Dion

https://www.pacificlightconcepts.com/product/cxp-420/


https://northerngrowlights.com/colle...nt=26046738440


I'm not saying you have to build, there r now plenty of good options that dont use yesteryears tech

I may be slow in the head, but I fail to see how either of those compare to the Amare sp900. Neither of them is a replacement for a 1k HPS. In one case it would take 2 to equal a 1k HPS. And the other would take at least 4, if not 5. My style of growing doesn't give me the option of hanging lights all over a room.

[Phaeton]

Originally Posted by Dion

https://www.pacificlightconcepts.com/product/cxp-420/


https://northerngrowlights.com/colle...nt=26046738440


I'm not saying you have to build, there r now plenty of good options that dont use yesteryears tech

Sometimes large arguments break out over silly attitudes towards physical facts that do not change due to opinion.

The two linked lights have inferior spectrum compared to Amare, and to many other brands as well.
This does not mean they will not grow plants, it just means there are better units available.
There always are, usually cost is involved. A well thought out DIY is the best and least expensive answer, but is not feasible for the majority of gardeners.

More power to those technically savvy DIY folks, but zealots at some manufacturing facilities design very efficient units also with reasonable pricing, care must be taken to separate these from the units with very savvy salesmen but no performance.

My side by side projects with six different brands of LED have been documented in previous posts, as have side by sides with MH, HPS, and CMH.
Turns out all have good and bad points, the final bud and veg rooms have been a hybrid of LED, discharge, and fluorescent lighting since 2011 with better yields and quality than any single light source could match.

I quit my day job in 2011 when I went to full time gardening. I now have three employees and stress is down.
I honestly think my attitude is correct as are my gardening practices.

[GOT_BUD?]

Now these are interesting, but they have no supplemental LED's.

https://timbergrowlights.com/900-watt...are-framework/

[Dion]

yeah i guess it just depends on if u think u need to add in specific wavelengths or just go with a shit ton of natural light?

[pazi]

I would give this a try:
https://aduraled.com/product/horticulture-led/1950-gla

Buy 16 modules for a 4x4 or 5x5 area and connect them up yourself with two drivers.